Powdercoating or painting
Powdercoating or painting I ordered a set of Torq Thrust II's, and I want to have the centers painted like the Carl Black Bird's are painted. I have an awesome body work guy that will paint and clearcoat them for me, but can't do powdercoating. Can someone explain the difference between painting and powdercoating, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> and where I could have powdercoating done if I wanted to?
Thanks for any help in advance. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Paul <img border="0" alt="[USA]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" />
Thanks for any help in advance. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Paul <img border="0" alt="[USA]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" />
Re: Powdercoating or painting Powder Painting would be far more durrable than paint but the down size is that you are a little more limited in colors.
As far as places in your area you will have to ask around. Maybe find a local shop that works on classics and rods and ask them who they reccomend. Im sure that there are DOZENS of powder painting places in your area, you just want to make sure you find one that is use to working on custom auto stuff.
Im sure it will look good either way.. and if the paint ever starts to get chipped then you can always re-paint them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
As far as places in your area you will have to ask around. Maybe find a local shop that works on classics and rods and ask them who they reccomend. Im sure that there are DOZENS of powder painting places in your area, you just want to make sure you find one that is use to working on custom auto stuff.
Im sure it will look good either way.. and if the paint ever starts to get chipped then you can always re-paint them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Re: Powdercoating or painting Powdercoating is applied, as a statically charged powder that is sprayed onto a statically charged metal object, kinda how magnets attract. Say the powder is positively charged and the wheel is negatively charged, so they are attracted to each other. Once the powder is applied the product then gets baked in a fairly hot oven, typically providing a very brilliant, high gloss and strong durable finish.
Painting, one can get very similar results but it is less durable to chipping, etc.
Painting, one can get very similar results but it is less durable to chipping, etc.
Re: Powdercoating or painting </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Xsta Z 28:
<strong> Powdercoating is applied, as a statically charged powder that is sprayed onto a statically charged metal object, kinda how magnets attract. Say the powder is positively charged and the wheel is negatively charged, so they are attracted to each other. Once the powder is applied the product then gets baked in a fairly hot oven, typically providing a very brilliant, high gloss and strong durable finish.
Painting, one can get very similar results but it is less durable to chipping, etc. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Since you are from Glendale Heights, do you know of any powder painting locations in this area? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Steve2000SS - So you think painting would last a while?
<strong> Powdercoating is applied, as a statically charged powder that is sprayed onto a statically charged metal object, kinda how magnets attract. Say the powder is positively charged and the wheel is negatively charged, so they are attracted to each other. Once the powder is applied the product then gets baked in a fairly hot oven, typically providing a very brilliant, high gloss and strong durable finish.
Painting, one can get very similar results but it is less durable to chipping, etc. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Since you are from Glendale Heights, do you know of any powder painting locations in this area? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />
Steve2000SS - So you think painting would last a while?
Re: Powdercoating or painting </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Xsta Z 28:
<strong> Powdercoating is applied, as a statically charged powder that is sprayed onto a statically charged metal object, kinda how magnets attract. Say the powder is positively charged and the wheel is negatively charged, so they are attracted to each other. Once the powder is applied the product then gets baked in a fairly hot oven, typically providing a very brilliant, high gloss and strong durable finish.
Painting, one can get very similar results but it is less durable to chipping, etc. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh sure Dr. Science.. get all technical will ya! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
Paint should hold up ok but nothing like powder paint.. May Dr. Science Andy can reccomend a powder painting shop <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> Powdercoating is applied, as a statically charged powder that is sprayed onto a statically charged metal object, kinda how magnets attract. Say the powder is positively charged and the wheel is negatively charged, so they are attracted to each other. Once the powder is applied the product then gets baked in a fairly hot oven, typically providing a very brilliant, high gloss and strong durable finish.
Painting, one can get very similar results but it is less durable to chipping, etc. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Oh sure Dr. Science.. get all technical will ya! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
Paint should hold up ok but nothing like powder paint.. May Dr. Science Andy can reccomend a powder painting shop <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Powdercoating or painting Andy & Steve, Technical is okay. It helps me understand the reason behind why one is better than the other. I hate just hearing opinions without support.
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My wheels are due in this week, and I need to get them to a "painter" in the next 10 days. I am having surgery on my right foot in 10 days, and will be recovering for 4 weeks, ie. no driving. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
My goal is to have the painting done while I'm laid up, and be ready to roll with the new wheels when recovery is over. Any help finding a powder coat shop would be helpful. But if I can't find one, then I'll have my painter just paint them.
I could always have them powdercoated when the paint starts looking #$itty, right?
Thanks for the input both of you.
Paul <img border="0" alt="[USA]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" />
<img border="0" alt="[bang head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />
My wheels are due in this week, and I need to get them to a "painter" in the next 10 days. I am having surgery on my right foot in 10 days, and will be recovering for 4 weeks, ie. no driving. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
My goal is to have the painting done while I'm laid up, and be ready to roll with the new wheels when recovery is over. Any help finding a powder coat shop would be helpful. But if I can't find one, then I'll have my painter just paint them.
I could always have them powdercoated when the paint starts looking #$itty, right?
Thanks for the input both of you.
Paul <img border="0" alt="[USA]" title="" src="graemlins/patriot.gif" />
Re: Powdercoating or painting i work in Addison, IL and do powder coating at our shop, and to the colors. you can come on by and check out all the books, but trust me. tons of colors can be ordered for anything you would want.
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Re: Powdercoating or painting Yo yo yo Bdubb does powder coating. He even powdercoats his bed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Example: 1995 Blazer with a set of Smittybilt nerf bars in black finish.
Factory finish started rusting the minute I took them out of the box. After a few years, they were pretty bad looking.
Took them off, had them powdercoated by a friend who did custom Harley's in Wooddale. Had them on for 5 years and still as shiny as when I put them back on.
Example: 1995 Blazer with a set of Smittybilt nerf bars in black finish.
Factory finish started rusting the minute I took them out of the box. After a few years, they were pretty bad looking.
Took them off, had them powdercoated by a friend who did custom Harley's in Wooddale. Had them on for 5 years and still as shiny as when I put them back on.
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Verdad Gallardo Re: Powdercoating or painting </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by CMNTMXR57:
<strong> Yo yo yo Bdubb does powder coating. He even powdercoats his bed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Example: 1995 Blazer with a set of Smittybilt nerf bars in black finish.
Factory finish started rusting the minute I took them out of the box. After a few years, they were pretty bad looking.
Took them off, had them powdercoated by a friend who did custom Harley's in Wooddale. Had them on for 5 years and still as shiny as when I put them back on. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">agree'd. it will last, wont rust, very very easy to clean.
what kind of finish will your rims have when you get them?
<strong> Yo yo yo Bdubb does powder coating. He even powdercoats his bed. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Example: 1995 Blazer with a set of Smittybilt nerf bars in black finish.
Factory finish started rusting the minute I took them out of the box. After a few years, they were pretty bad looking.
Took them off, had them powdercoated by a friend who did custom Harley's in Wooddale. Had them on for 5 years and still as shiny as when I put them back on. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">agree'd. it will last, wont rust, very very easy to clean.
what kind of finish will your rims have when you get them?
Re: Powdercoating or painting </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Steve2000SS:
<strong> Oh sure Dr. Science.. get all technical will ya! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
Paint should hold up ok but nothing like powder paint.. Maybe Dr. Science Andy can recommend a powder painting shop <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do I sound edjamucated?!?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
As for a local place, sorry I need to find one.
<strong> Oh sure Dr. Science.. get all technical will ya! <img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />
Paint should hold up ok but nothing like powder paint.. Maybe Dr. Science Andy can recommend a powder painting shop <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do I sound edjamucated?!?! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_images/icons/tongue.gif" />
As for a local place, sorry I need to find one.
Re: Powdercoating or painting I guess they are a high polish alloy. I don't know if they will be clear coated or not. They are the regular order high polish Torq Thrust II from American Racing.
How much would you charge to powder coat them, and what kind of a warranty on the work would I get?
How much would you charge to powder coat them, and what kind of a warranty on the work would I get?
Re: Powdercoating or painting </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Last Yellow Bird:
<strong> I guess they are a high polish alloy. I don't know if they will be clear coated or not. They are the regular order high polish Torq Thrust II from American Racing.
How much would you charge to powder coat them, and what kind of a warranty on the work would I get? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It all depends on the time spent getting the finish off, because we have to sand blast them down to the bare metal, so the powder coating sticks and last the longest..... also size of rims is a factor...
tipically, 50-60 dollars per rim, and as for warrenty, i'm not sure. never had anybody have any problems with any of the stuff we did, but i'm sure we wont leave you hanging if the coating decided not to stick... (almost fool proof)...
<strong> I guess they are a high polish alloy. I don't know if they will be clear coated or not. They are the regular order high polish Torq Thrust II from American Racing.
How much would you charge to powder coat them, and what kind of a warranty on the work would I get? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It all depends on the time spent getting the finish off, because we have to sand blast them down to the bare metal, so the powder coating sticks and last the longest..... also size of rims is a factor...
tipically, 50-60 dollars per rim, and as for warrenty, i'm not sure. never had anybody have any problems with any of the stuff we did, but i'm sure we wont leave you hanging if the coating decided not to stick... (almost fool proof)...
Re: Powdercoating or painting I just got some TT IIs and will be having them powdercoated clear. There is no coating on them, they just need to be cleaned to remove any remaining buffing compound. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Re: Powdercoating or painting </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BW:
also size of rims is a factor...
50-60 dollars per rim.......
[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BW, Check your e-mail in the forum.
Paul
also size of rims is a factor...
50-60 dollars per rim.......
[/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BW, Check your e-mail in the forum.
Paul
Re: Powdercoating or painting I said forum, I meant profile. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> Where in addison are you located, and when could I come in to look at colors, and drop these rims off for you to powder coat for me?
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Re: Powdercoating or painting I just went this ordeal, finding places to do it, deciding which to do etc.
If you have a body shop do it, and you are going to clear the remainder of the wheel, make sure they use the 3M two part paint process, it's a much more durable paint. If you're not going to clear the remainder of the wheel, just a regular paint job on the spokes will be fine.
Powder coating now comes in the colors you're looking for.
Here's the links to two of the places I found to do the wheels. I wound up doing them myself.
http://www.wheelcollision.com/
http://www.fixrim.com/index.html
And pictures of mine..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...67493005fNGCpH
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...67774477hKDQip
If you have a body shop do it, and you are going to clear the remainder of the wheel, make sure they use the 3M two part paint process, it's a much more durable paint. If you're not going to clear the remainder of the wheel, just a regular paint job on the spokes will be fine.
Powder coating now comes in the colors you're looking for.
Here's the links to two of the places I found to do the wheels. I wound up doing them myself.
http://www.wheelcollision.com/
http://www.fixrim.com/index.html
And pictures of mine..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...67493005fNGCpH
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...67774477hKDQip
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Re: Powdercoating or painting Go to www.eastwoodcompany.com Check out their Original powder coating deluxe kit now on sale for 159.99. I've had one for about 5 years and have powder coated you name it. You just have to have an air compressor that can put 10lbs. to the gun and an old oven or infrared lamp to get the item to 400 degrees for about 20 min. They also have Dekote stripper that will remove the paint from the spokes. $60 per wheel sounds like an excellent price considering the work involved, but if you have your own set up you can save around $120 and have the equipment left to do other stuff. Just my $.02 good luck!
