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Found: LED (not HID) headlights Found a source for purchasing some of these:
http://www.dialight.com/Product/Category/477476
They are DOT/SAE FMVSS108 compliant and have a 7 year full replacement warranty, with an expected lifespan of 10 years, so keep that in mind when you see the prices. Think about how much money you would spend on headlights in 7 years if you completely replace them every year or two. Not quite so bad once you take that into account.
They offer:
90mm LED projectors high & low (separate modules, no hi/lo combined models)
4"x6" LED headlights high & low (separate modules, no hi/lo combined models)
More info:
Pricing from one of their distributors (low beam ONLY):
4x6 low beam: $285.71/ea = $571.42/pr
90mm low beam: $357.14/ea = $714.28/pr
This is where you guys as F-body owners **** your pants because you're all cheapasses. For an LED lighting option on a new car (high+low), it would be $1800+. Yes, I know you couldn't use high beams if you have a 93-97 Firebird. I already have HID projectors and probably will be sticking with HIDs for quite some time. Let me know your thoughts.
http://www.dialight.com/Product/Category/477476
They are DOT/SAE FMVSS108 compliant and have a 7 year full replacement warranty, with an expected lifespan of 10 years, so keep that in mind when you see the prices. Think about how much money you would spend on headlights in 7 years if you completely replace them every year or two. Not quite so bad once you take that into account.
They offer:
90mm LED projectors high & low (separate modules, no hi/lo combined models)
4"x6" LED headlights high & low (separate modules, no hi/lo combined models)
More info:
Dialight announced the addition of the new LED Low Beam 4"x6" Headlamp to its growing line of SAE/DOT approved LED lighting products for commercial vehicles and mass transit buses. Operating at less than 14 watts, the Dialight Low Beam Headlamp uses more than 70% less energy than conventional halogen headlamps and one-third the energy of the leading LED competitor in its class. This exceptional energy efficiency helps to reduce stress on the vehicles' electrical system and potentially improve fuel economy.
Leveraging Dialight's proprietary thermal design, the Dialight Low Beam Headlamp requires no cooling fans or other moving parts to manage heat, eliminating the failure points commonly found in other LED products. The combination of exceptional energy efficiency and innovative thermal management makes the long-life Dialight LED 4"x6" Low Beam the most reliable product of its kind for this application.
Where typical conventional headlamps require replacement about once every nine months, the Dialight unit offers a life expectancy of more than 10 full years, seven of those backed by Dialight's full-replacement peace of mind warranty. This saves mass transit bus operators significant maintenance time and cost over the life of the product.
"This product is the latest edition in our family of highly efficient forward lighting that incorporates Dialight's exclusive reflector-based optics design to enhance visibility in adverse weather conditions and reduce glare for oncoming traffic," said Roy Burton, Dialight's Group Chief Executive. "Based on the data we've seen, this new 4"x6" headlamp is far superior to anything else on the market with regard to energy efficiency and maintenance savings."
Made in the USA at Dialight's Roxboro, NC facility, the new 4"x6" headlamp meets the Buy America requirements and is SAE/DOT FMVSS108 compliant. Its rugged aluminum alloy die cast housing and hard-coated polycarbonate lens make the weather-proof unit impact resistant to hold up to the wear and tear of transit use. The plug-and-play unit is a perfect match in fit and function to existing incandescent headlamps and features universal 12V and 24V dual-voltage operation.
Leveraging Dialight's proprietary thermal design, the Dialight Low Beam Headlamp requires no cooling fans or other moving parts to manage heat, eliminating the failure points commonly found in other LED products. The combination of exceptional energy efficiency and innovative thermal management makes the long-life Dialight LED 4"x6" Low Beam the most reliable product of its kind for this application.
Where typical conventional headlamps require replacement about once every nine months, the Dialight unit offers a life expectancy of more than 10 full years, seven of those backed by Dialight's full-replacement peace of mind warranty. This saves mass transit bus operators significant maintenance time and cost over the life of the product.
"This product is the latest edition in our family of highly efficient forward lighting that incorporates Dialight's exclusive reflector-based optics design to enhance visibility in adverse weather conditions and reduce glare for oncoming traffic," said Roy Burton, Dialight's Group Chief Executive. "Based on the data we've seen, this new 4"x6" headlamp is far superior to anything else on the market with regard to energy efficiency and maintenance savings."
Made in the USA at Dialight's Roxboro, NC facility, the new 4"x6" headlamp meets the Buy America requirements and is SAE/DOT FMVSS108 compliant. Its rugged aluminum alloy die cast housing and hard-coated polycarbonate lens make the weather-proof unit impact resistant to hold up to the wear and tear of transit use. The plug-and-play unit is a perfect match in fit and function to existing incandescent headlamps and features universal 12V and 24V dual-voltage operation.
4x6 low beam: $285.71/ea = $571.42/pr
90mm low beam: $357.14/ea = $714.28/pr
This is where you guys as F-body owners **** your pants because you're all cheapasses. For an LED lighting option on a new car (high+low), it would be $1800+. Yes, I know you couldn't use high beams if you have a 93-97 Firebird. I already have HID projectors and probably will be sticking with HIDs for quite some time. Let me know your thoughts.
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I ran LED headlights on my Jeep. They sucked almost as bad as the stockers. Here's a nice writeup:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/wr...lights-911997/
That was one specific brand, at one specific time. Obviously it will be different for these. Would be curious to see Lumens output rating. Most like this I have seen are run by local SEPTA (Mass Transit) buses and their output, though not horrible, is not great. I just checked their website and pdf brochure and don't see a Lumens output rating.
They're also $278 per light: http://www.newark.com/dialight/dll43...low/dp/65T6515
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/wr...lights-911997/
That was one specific brand, at one specific time. Obviously it will be different for these. Would be curious to see Lumens output rating. Most like this I have seen are run by local SEPTA (Mass Transit) buses and their output, though not horrible, is not great. I just checked their website and pdf brochure and don't see a Lumens output rating.
They're also $278 per light: http://www.newark.com/dialight/dll43...low/dp/65T6515
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I ran LED headlights on my Jeep. They sucked almost as bad as the stockers. Here's a nice writeup:
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/wr...lights-911997/
That was one specific brand, at one specific time. Obviously it will be different for these. Would be curious to see Lumens output rating. Most like this I have seen are run by local SEPTA (Mass Transit) buses and their output, though not horrible, is not great. I just checked their website and pdf brochure and don't see a Lumens output rating.
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/wr...lights-911997/
That was one specific brand, at one specific time. Obviously it will be different for these. Would be curious to see Lumens output rating. Most like this I have seen are run by local SEPTA (Mass Transit) buses and their output, though not horrible, is not great. I just checked their website and pdf brochure and don't see a Lumens output rating.
Originally Posted by HibachiZ28
That was one specific brand, at one specific time. Obviously it will be different for these.
The other ones I'm talking about that are on the SEPTA buses (Scroll to the bottom of the page):
http://www.jwspeaker.com/other/led-headlamps
They're even more expensive and only 850/750 lumens, which is crap.
I just called Dialight and left a message for Lumens Output rating on the 2 round and two rectangular modules.
Last edited by HibachiZ28; Dec 19, 2011 at 05:44 PM.
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Very interesting. Would love to see how these perform. Just as a comment, you cannot compare lumens directly with a halogen or HID source. Housing/fixture efficiency is typical much better since there is no internal reflecting needed to push the light out. Tough to tell how the LEDs are oriented in the housing to tell for sure.
The market will get interesting as more of these kinds of products come out. Only questions will be if the actually perform and how well they designed the thermal management properties of the housing.
The market will get interesting as more of these kinds of products come out. Only questions will be if the actually perform and how well they designed the thermal management properties of the housing.
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Well since my hid's are suppose to last 7-10 years and I also have a 10 year warranty on them I'm pretty sure the led's won't be cheaper.
All of the led headlights I have seen pretty much suck I doubt these are any better.
All of the led headlights I have seen pretty much suck I doubt these are any better.
Very interesting. Would love to see how these perform. Just as a comment, you cannot compare lumens directly with a halogen or HID source. Housing/fixture efficiency is typical much better since there is no internal reflecting needed to push the light out. Tough to tell how the LEDs are oriented in the housing to tell for sure.
The market will get interesting as more of these kinds of products come out. Only questions will be if the actually perform and how well they designed the thermal management properties of the housing.
The market will get interesting as more of these kinds of products come out. Only questions will be if the actually perform and how well they designed the thermal management properties of the housing.
At least these ones have decent cooling fins on the back. They should receive a fair amount of airflow in a Trans Am housing as well.The market is definitely becoming interesting! Once a nice LED housing hits our market segment, I'd be interested in purchasing. I just can't justify spending this much money on something where output is still lacking.
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Nothing cheap about spending four figure priced lights unless you're on expedition adventure in the boondocks or it's a SEMA PRI showcar. Most drive their F-body on the street. Heck I'd get some sweet *** high end wheels if you're throwing away cash just for something you'll only benefit at night.
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OEM HID systems cost over $1500 (minimum) as an option when they were new, and people still paid that much money for them on their daily drivers. It was even more money on luxury cars such as Mercedes/BMW.
Nothing cheap about spending four figure priced lights unless you're on expedition adventure in the boondocks or it's a SEMA PRI showcar. Most drive their F-body on the street. Heck I'd get some sweet *** high end wheels if you're throwing away cash just for something you'll only benefit at night.
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For the record, I already have a BLS 60mm HID low beam projector kit installed on my car. Not looking to change any time soon.
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