Help detailing car
Help detailing car How is it going guys. My trans am has been sitting without and engine for a while and I am waiting on parts for it. In the meantime I want to fix te paint it has swirl marks and dirt the paint still looks nice just needs a touch up.
What I'm using:
Harbor freight 7" variable speed polisher.
I starting off with some no7 polishing compund with a fleece bonnet
Then meguiars scratch x with another fleece bonnet
Finally meguiars tech wax2.0 by hand and cleaned with a terry cloth towel.
This is how did it last Time I gave this a shoot but now the car is not going anywhere so I Want to do it right and take my time. Is there things I can add or change to this other better stuff I can use. I'm pretty much learning how to do this stuff and used some simple stuff I'm still trying to learn about te types of bonnets and what speed to use with what.
Thanks,
What I'm using:
Harbor freight 7" variable speed polisher.
I starting off with some no7 polishing compund with a fleece bonnet
Then meguiars scratch x with another fleece bonnet
Finally meguiars tech wax2.0 by hand and cleaned with a terry cloth towel.
This is how did it last Time I gave this a shoot but now the car is not going anywhere so I Want to do it right and take my time. Is there things I can add or change to this other better stuff I can use. I'm pretty much learning how to do this stuff and used some simple stuff I'm still trying to learn about te types of bonnets and what speed to use with what.
Thanks,
Check out this thread. It has everything you need to know about paint correction and detailing.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...-detailer.html
It's a very long read but worth it. Take plenty of notes. That thread got me into paint correction a couple years ago. Any question you can think of has been covered in that thread.
I would look into getting some flat foam pads from Lake Country, orange/white/black. I would also consider picking up some Meguiars Microfiber cutting/finishing pads.
Compounds I would start with are Meguiars M105, M205 and D300.
You might want to change out the backing plate on the HF polisher. That polisher is good but from all the things I have read the backing plate is junk. I'm sure someone with experience with that polisher will post up soon.
Get on Youtube and good Junkman, paint correction. He has a tremendous amount of videos on there.
The most important thing starting out is to learn proper technique.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...-detailer.html
It's a very long read but worth it. Take plenty of notes. That thread got me into paint correction a couple years ago. Any question you can think of has been covered in that thread.
I would look into getting some flat foam pads from Lake Country, orange/white/black. I would also consider picking up some Meguiars Microfiber cutting/finishing pads.
Compounds I would start with are Meguiars M105, M205 and D300.
You might want to change out the backing plate on the HF polisher. That polisher is good but from all the things I have read the backing plate is junk. I'm sure someone with experience with that polisher will post up soon.
Get on Youtube and good Junkman, paint correction. He has a tremendous amount of videos on there.
The most important thing starting out is to learn proper technique.
Check out this thread. It has everything you need to know about paint correction and detailing.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...-detailer.html
It's a very long read but worth it. Take plenty of notes. That thread got me into paint correction a couple years ago. Any question you can think of has been covered in that thread.
I would look into getting some flat foam pads from Lake Country, orange/white/black. I would also consider picking up some Meguiars Microfiber cutting/finishing pads.
Compounds I would start with are Meguiars M105, M205 and D300.
You might want to change out the backing plate on the HF polisher. That polisher is good but from all the things I have read the backing plate is junk. I'm sure someone with experience with that polisher will post up soon.
Get on Youtube and good Junkman, paint correction. He has a tremendous amount of videos on there.
The most important thing starting out is to learn proper technique.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...-detailer.html
It's a very long read but worth it. Take plenty of notes. That thread got me into paint correction a couple years ago. Any question you can think of has been covered in that thread.
I would look into getting some flat foam pads from Lake Country, orange/white/black. I would also consider picking up some Meguiars Microfiber cutting/finishing pads.
Compounds I would start with are Meguiars M105, M205 and D300.
You might want to change out the backing plate on the HF polisher. That polisher is good but from all the things I have read the backing plate is junk. I'm sure someone with experience with that polisher will post up soon.
Get on Youtube and good Junkman, paint correction. He has a tremendous amount of videos on there.
The most important thing starting out is to learn proper technique.
As far as you're situation is concerned..
D300 is a great compound for beginners especially. Nice working time, and very easy to work with. The MF correction kit and a DA will do you nicely to start imo.
Thanks guys I read a good chunk of the thread and watch te youtube vids learned a lot actually. So new plan will be...
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
Thanks guys I read a good chunk of the thread and watch te youtube vids learned a lot actually. So new plan will be...
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
Just my $.02.
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I take it you have this polisher
http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-...der-92623.html
If so, you would be better off investing in one of these
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-va...her-69924.html
I use this backing plate on my porter cable
http://www.autogeek.net/lc43125.html
For pads I use these. I would get orange, white and black.
http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country...d-pad-kit.html
M105 has a bit of a learning curve so if you are a little new to this I would start off with something a little more user friendly. I would recommend meguiars ultimate line up (compound, polish and wax). The good thing is that they are readily available at any autoparts store or walmart. M26 is a nice carnauba to follow a sealant.
http://www.harborfreight.com/7-inch-...der-92623.html
If so, you would be better off investing in one of these
http://www.harborfreight.com/6-in-va...her-69924.html
I use this backing plate on my porter cable
http://www.autogeek.net/lc43125.html
For pads I use these. I would get orange, white and black.
http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country...d-pad-kit.html
M105 has a bit of a learning curve so if you are a little new to this I would start off with something a little more user friendly. I would recommend meguiars ultimate line up (compound, polish and wax). The good thing is that they are readily available at any autoparts store or walmart. M26 is a nice carnauba to follow a sealant.
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Verdad Gallardo Thanks guys I read a good chunk of the thread and watch te youtube vids learned a lot actually. So new plan will be...
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
If you are going to start out using those two compounds do yourself a favor and research the Kevin Brown Method, "KBM" It concerns how to properly prime your pads using those two compounds and believe me you will see much better results using KBM.
M105 can be finicky, short work time, dusts. Priming the pad properly greatly improves those two things. Using a little D300 is a great way to make M105 more user friendly starting out.
Also know that you will work compounds like M105/205/D300 differently than you work products like Adams, Menzerna, Pinnacle and so on. What works well for one doesn't for the other.
Junkmans videos are fantastic, I learned a lot from him starting out. Just keep in mind what products he uses.
Rare!!
A side note to the good advice posted and the link to the holy grail detailing thread......I would really skip past m105 all together. Since I started using m101 and menzerna fg400, my bottles of m105 has not been touched or missed. M101 cuts better imo, works longer and dusts SO much less, same goes for the fg400.
For the hard clearcoats on the 4th gen cars my personal go to( not all the time but mostly) is Menzerna FG400 on megs MF cutting disc to correct. Then Menzerna PO83 with megs MF polishing disc and finish out with Menzerna PO85RD with lake county blue finesse pad. Sub in m101 in place of FG400 and m205 in place of PO83 and it works just as nicely. I just personally prefer menzerna on the F-cars and Vettes. Ultimately though those are just my personal preferences. When you get into professional products and out of the local parts store products, there arent too many bad choices. Patience, technique, proper use of products, proper surface prep, pad maintenance and cleaning,patience and patience are going to be the most important aspects of great results.
For the hard clearcoats on the 4th gen cars my personal go to( not all the time but mostly) is Menzerna FG400 on megs MF cutting disc to correct. Then Menzerna PO83 with megs MF polishing disc and finish out with Menzerna PO85RD with lake county blue finesse pad. Sub in m101 in place of FG400 and m205 in place of PO83 and it works just as nicely. I just personally prefer menzerna on the F-cars and Vettes. Ultimately though those are just my personal preferences. When you get into professional products and out of the local parts store products, there arent too many bad choices. Patience, technique, proper use of products, proper surface prep, pad maintenance and cleaning,patience and patience are going to be the most important aspects of great results.
A side note to the good advice posted and the link to the holy grail detailing thread......I would really skip past m105 all together. Since I started using m101 and menzerna fg400, my bottles of m105 has not been touched or missed. M101 cuts better imo, works longer and dusts SO much less, same goes for the fg400.
For the hard clearcoats on the 4th gen cars my personal go to( not all the time but mostly) is Menzerna FG400 on megs MF cutting disc to correct. Then Menzerna PO83 with megs MF polishing disc and finish out with Menzerna PO85RD with lake county blue finesse pad. Sub in m101 in place of FG400 and m205 in place of PO83 and it works just as nicely. I just personally prefer menzerna on the F-cars and Vettes. Ultimately though those are just my personal preferences. When you get into professional products and out of the local parts store products, there arent too many bad choices. Patience, technique, proper use of products, proper surface prep, pad maintenance and cleaning,patience and patience are going to be the most important aspects of great results.
For the hard clearcoats on the 4th gen cars my personal go to( not all the time but mostly) is Menzerna FG400 on megs MF cutting disc to correct. Then Menzerna PO83 with megs MF polishing disc and finish out with Menzerna PO85RD with lake county blue finesse pad. Sub in m101 in place of FG400 and m205 in place of PO83 and it works just as nicely. I just personally prefer menzerna on the F-cars and Vettes. Ultimately though those are just my personal preferences. When you get into professional products and out of the local parts store products, there arent too many bad choices. Patience, technique, proper use of products, proper surface prep, pad maintenance and cleaning,patience and patience are going to be the most important aspects of great results.
IMO you should crawl before you walk. Just my .02. No flame or hate intended , I hope you didn't take it that way.
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I'd get Microfiber pads instead of the white foam pad for compound. Im with jay on either 105, D300, or even look into HD Cut and HD Adapt.
Also instead of Chemical guys blue clay bar I'd look into the Nanoskin Clay sponge/block they make them in fine and medium grade. They last a lot longer than normal clay does and if you drop it you don't have to throw it away like you do with clay bars you just have to rinse off the Nanoskin. Plus they are cheaper.
Also instead of Chemical guys blue clay bar I'd look into the Nanoskin Clay sponge/block they make them in fine and medium grade. They last a lot longer than normal clay does and if you drop it you don't have to throw it away like you do with clay bars you just have to rinse off the Nanoskin. Plus they are cheaper.
Point taken Jay, and I didnt take it as a flame at all. Sometimes I forget the skill level when posting in a forum that generally has alot of people that are beginners with machine compounding and polishing .
Typically, I really use quite a bit of Menzerna. The working time on their products I find to be second to none most of the time. This, coupled with how nicely they finish down, really gives me the ability to use one product line in many cases. Great lineup for sure - but it's not to say that I don't use a gallon of M101 a year...
And FWIW, I also use quite a bit of M105. It should still have a space in every detailers arsenal imho.
It's certainly isn't rocket science, but with modern development of machine, compounds, polishes, pads, clay alternatives, etc - it's better to start out with the basics. I typically recommend the Meguiars DA Correction System to beginners, because they really did make that kit very beginner friendly. I detail cars as a hobbyist and semi-professionally (not my full time job - but I have performed paint corrections on some vehicles that I'm confident I wouldn't be able to afford in this lifetime) and I STILL turn back to the D300 and MF pads from time to time. Really a great kit when paired with someone willing to take the time to learn the art of paint correction.
Typically, I really use quite a bit of Menzerna. The working time on their products I find to be second to none most of the time. This, coupled with how nicely they finish down, really gives me the ability to use one product line in many cases. Great lineup for sure - but it's not to say that I don't use a gallon of M101 a year...
And FWIW, I also use quite a bit of M105. It should still have a space in every detailers arsenal imho.
Typically, I really use quite a bit of Menzerna. The working time on their products I find to be second to none most of the time. This, coupled with how nicely they finish down, really gives me the ability to use one product line in many cases. Great lineup for sure - but it's not to say that I don't use a gallon of M101 a year...
And FWIW, I also use quite a bit of M105. It should still have a space in every detailers arsenal imho.
Meguiar's D300 and MF cutting discs work good on the hard clear coat. I used it on my dad's camaro and it worked a little better than 105 and a orange cutting pad on mine. I followed both with M205.
As I said if you are a newbie to this I would start off with meguiars ultimate componund and ultimate polish. They work just as good and are derived form 105/205.
As I said if you are a newbie to this I would start off with meguiars ultimate componund and ultimate polish. They work just as good and are derived form 105/205.
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Thanks guys I read a good chunk of the thread and watch te youtube vids learned a lot actually. So new plan will be...
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
Wash car(still learning)
Clay car (chemical guys blue clay)
Meguiars 205 w/ orange hex pad
Meguiars 105 w/ white hex pad
Still thinking about a sealant/wax
Finishing with some butter wax
I was looking into replacing the backing plate on my harbor freight polisher with one from chemical guys but can't seem to find a 5" backing plate from them that has a 5/16 screw, I really want to use their hex pad, can anybody steer me in the right direction here.
Thanks,
105 first then 205
wax then sealant last.
I also use Sonus paint sealant.
take your time, some cars I have over 20 hours detailing.
I love meguiars paint reconditioning cream. awesome stuff. It's inbetween 105 and 205. Use orange pads on the Dual action.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/appearanc...ing-snack.html