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Old May 10, 2014 | 09:31 PM
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So after the paint correction with Meguiars ultimate compound and polish, Im left wanting more. Ive been reading up on wet sanding and products...
So far looking into starting with 2000 grit and up to 3000... Going to try the worst panel just in case... Don't get me wrong, car needs minor body work due to some very small dents and such, but that and repainting is not a luxury I have at the moment, or will for awhile. Ive got some orange peel throughout the body and looking for more of a mirror finish.

Questions is, do I have to use a rotary or is my DA enough with a good compound and polish to shine it up after? Orange and white pads from hex logic ok?
Any techniques I need to be aware of besides staying away from edges and taking it slow?
Less it better in this case to start for sure.

Just looking for some advice from people that have been there..
Thanks in advance!

BTW the thought of wet sanding make my ***** quiver so any advice will help!
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Old May 10, 2014 | 10:59 PM
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Have you thought about using meguires m105 and 205? They should give you better results than the ultimate polish
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Old May 11, 2014 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by black79transam
Have you thought about using meguires m105 and 205? They should give you better results than the ultimate polish
This. Check out Junkman's thread and videos on using proper technique with a DA and some M105 / M205. Lots of good stuff in there!
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Old May 11, 2014 | 08:14 AM
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I definitely watched junkmans videos prior to starting... Very informative... Man is to the point and informative... Only reason I tried the Ultimate lineup is I had the polish already so only had to purchase the compound. I will definatly pick up the 105/205 line and try a panel when I can. Don't get me wrong car looks so much better than before, just needs that extra step... Maybe these will give it to me...

Appreciate the advice. If I had known the 105 was that much better would never have used the other lol
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Old May 11, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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Check at your local Harbor Freight for some M105 and M205, mine just recently started stocking it. Before I would have to order it online.
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Old May 11, 2014 | 12:51 PM
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yea mine has it too at about 30 bucks for 32 ounce...going to try and wait for some of there nice coupons to come out and grab the combo...girl may kill me if I spend another 60 and detailing supplies lol
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Old May 12, 2014 | 10:26 PM
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Auto zone also carries it in some stores.

And yes there is a major difference. Ultimate compound is not any good for much correction
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Old May 13, 2014 | 09:45 AM
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Wet sanding is a last resort, and should be avoided at all costs on any body panel that you care about.

Get a stronger polish/compound, microfiber pads, and start there. Much safer and effective way to get rid of damage when compared to wet sanding.

Wet sanding swirls/scratches out is like killing a fly with a sledgehammer.
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Ive been reading up on these microfiber pads and paint correction....seems a must have...Is it worked using m105 only? any difference in pad priming vs. a hexlogic orange foam pad? Really need to add one to my arsenal I think
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Ive been reading up on these microfiber pads and paint correction....seems a must have...Is it worked using m105 only? any difference in pad priming vs. a hexlogic orange foam pad? Really need to add one to my arsenal I think
With the microfiber pads, you need to make sure its fully primed. I put several tiny dots over the surface and use my finger to fully work it into the entire pad surface. Theres other ways to prime them, thats just what works amazingly well for me. You definately do not want to oversaturate it. Cleanliness is key, if you have a compressor you should be blowing the pad out after every panel. I dont have a compressor where I detail yet, so I turn on my polisher and use a brush to clean after every panel. Not oversaturating the pad and keeping it clean, I do roughly 1/2 car with one pad pending on the condition of the paint.

Since you already have 105, pick up some d300 cutting compound as well and mix with the 105. It will cut down on dusting and imo makes the 105 work better. Personally ive been using m101 or menzerna fg400 with the microfiber pads.

To clean then is really easy. I typically have a bucket of water and micro-restore ready and I just clean right after im done with a pad. Using a brush in the microfiber detergent, they clean up quick. Thouroughly rinse and let dry. Ive got into a pinch a couple times and needed a pad, so I have thrown them in the dryer before on a low heat setting with no ill effects to the pad.
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Old May 13, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
Auto zone also carries it in some stores.

And yes there is a major difference. Ultimate compound is not any good for much correction
Ultimate compound is a good product. It's as close as you will get to M105 in a consumer product.

Not sure if you are working on OEM paint but these cars typically have hard clear coat from the factory. From my experience, UC and M105 on foam pads didn't make a dent in correcting my 02 and my dad's 02. I got the car where I wanted it using Meguiar's micrfiber pads and their D300 compound. For the deeper defects I used M105.

Originally Posted by Nick@Adams
Wet sanding is a last resort, and should be avoided at all costs on any body panel that you care about.

Get a stronger polish/compound, microfiber pads, and start there. Much safer and effective way to get rid of damage when compared to wet sanding.

Wet sanding swirls/scratches out is like killing a fly with a sledgehammer.
I agree with Nick.

Originally Posted by LT4vert
With the microfiber pads, you need to make sure its fully primed. I put several tiny dots over the surface and use my finger to fully work it into the entire pad surface. Theres other ways to prime them, thats just what works amazingly well for me. You definately do not want to oversaturate it. Cleanliness is key, if you have a compressor you should be blowing the pad out after every panel. I dont have a compressor where I detail yet, so I turn on my polisher and use a brush to clean after every panel. Not oversaturating the pad and keeping it clean, I do roughly 1/2 car with one pad pending on the condition of the paint.

Since you already have 105, pick up some d300 cutting compound as well and mix with the 105. It will cut down on dusting and imo makes the 105 work better. Personally ive been using m101 or menzerna fg400 with the microfiber pads.

To clean then is really easy. I typically have a bucket of water and micro-restore ready and I just clean right after im done with a pad. Using a brush in the microfiber detergent, they clean up quick. Thouroughly rinse and let dry. Ive got into a pinch a couple times and needed a pad, so I have thrown them in the dryer before on a low heat setting with no ill effects to the pad.
This shows you how to correctly prime a microfiber pad.
http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...rection-System
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Old May 13, 2014 | 03:25 PM
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Unless your car has been repainted, I'd strongly discourage wetsanding the factory clear. The UV protectant is in the top of the clear and leveling it will reduce it too much and can cause premature clear coat failure down the road.

Correcting the paint as others have advised is your best bet.
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Old Jul 2, 2014 | 08:00 PM
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Factory paint, no reason really to put ANY sandpaper on it. Sandpaper is for pro's, and I know VERY few who would sand on factory paint.

Buy this kit, watch some vids(learn to prime pads correctly) and get to it.

http://www.autogeek.net/porter-cable-meguiars-kit.html
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Old Jul 10, 2014 | 12:07 PM
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Usually factory paints only have one or two coats of clear to keep cost down. You will cut through that very quickly if not careful.

This will give you an idea with black. I put on a single stage and wet sanded with 1500. Now I know I had many coats and shouldn't burn through. I took a wool pad with Kustom compound for cutting /polishing Item #: KUS KSD-714

It will cut down to 1200 grit but works good at 1500. Talking by experience you and spray the roughest paint job, hand wet and buff into a mirror shine.
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