Morrimoto 50w hid kit with h11 bulb & morimoto projector - not bright enough - Help!
04-10-2018, 07:16 AM
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Morrimoto 50w hid kit with h11 bulb & morimoto projector - not bright enough - Help! So.. This isn't my first retrofit , previously it was with ebay products in my 01 camaro.
This time I used Morrimotto Mini H1 & Morrimoto 50watts HID kit with Elite H1 (6500k) Bulbs (edit** thread title has wrong bulb in it).
While The light is bright , it doesn't form a nice beam 50-60 ft away like how I've seen late model entry level cars do (toyota corolla or nissan sentra etc).
I disasembled everything to verify that projector bowls were not burned in anyway.
Things that I'm considering that are working against my goal:
1. Didn't use the wiring harness which connects to battery - lights do flicker at start up but stable able once hids have heated up.
2. Headlights aren't perfectly clear.
3. Battery needed to be jump started after the winter but dash guage reads 13
4. Headlights aren't aimed the best they could be.
Any other ideas that I could look into?
The 35 watt Morrimoto HID kit in my 2013 camry is great, even in stock projectors.
The lenses on that car crystal clear and harness was used, headlights are positioned high because height of car and battery is perfect.
This time I used Morrimotto Mini H1 & Morrimoto 50watts HID kit with Elite H1 (6500k) Bulbs (edit** thread title has wrong bulb in it).
While The light is bright , it doesn't form a nice beam 50-60 ft away like how I've seen late model entry level cars do (toyota corolla or nissan sentra etc).
I disasembled everything to verify that projector bowls were not burned in anyway.
Things that I'm considering that are working against my goal:
1. Didn't use the wiring harness which connects to battery - lights do flicker at start up but stable able once hids have heated up.
2. Headlights aren't perfectly clear.
3. Battery needed to be jump started after the winter but dash guage reads 13
4. Headlights aren't aimed the best they could be.
Any other ideas that I could look into?
The 35 watt Morrimoto HID kit in my 2013 camry is great, even in stock projectors.
The lenses on that car crystal clear and harness was used, headlights are positioned high because height of car and battery is perfect.
Last edited by bad_408_vert; 04-10-2018 at 07:23 AM. Reason: More Details
04-10-2018, 08:09 AM
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Two things you mentioned will directly affect that.
If your headlight aim is bad they won't throw light far down the road.
If your lenses are clouded over they won't throw light properly either.
What may not help is how low these cars sit. It is going to impact the light throw distance. What I've done to help compensate a bit on mine was aim them instead of the standard 2" drop at 25 feet I make it just 1". Still low enough that only another fbody owner may notice but no one else will, but it gave more light down the road.
6500k is also more on the blue side which will affect that light output as well. I noticed a difference in throw with just going to 5000k from 6000k bulbs previously.
If your headlight aim is bad they won't throw light far down the road.
If your lenses are clouded over they won't throw light properly either.
What may not help is how low these cars sit. It is going to impact the light throw distance. What I've done to help compensate a bit on mine was aim them instead of the standard 2" drop at 25 feet I make it just 1". Still low enough that only another fbody owner may notice but no one else will, but it gave more light down the road.
6500k is also more on the blue side which will affect that light output as well. I noticed a difference in throw with just going to 5000k from 6000k bulbs previously.
04-11-2018, 12:08 AM
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Bulb seating may also be an issue. Make sure the hotspot is centered at the top of the low beam pattern. If the hotspot is off to the side or low, then you'll lose distance.
Can you post pics of the headlights and the beam pattern?
Also, 50watt is not recommend in the Mini-H1 Projectors. It tends to ruin them over time.
Can you post pics of the headlights and the beam pattern?
Also, 50watt is not recommend in the Mini-H1 Projectors. It tends to ruin them over time.
04-13-2018, 10:44 AM
#4
Two things you mentioned will directly affect that.
If your headlight aim is bad they won't throw light far down the road.
If your lenses are clouded over they won't throw light properly either.
What may not help is how low these cars sit. It is going to impact the light throw distance. What I've done to help compensate a bit on mine was aim them instead of the standard 2" drop at 25 feet I make it just 1". Still low enough that only another fbody owner may notice but no one else will, but it gave more light down the road.
6500k is also more on the blue side which will affect that light output as well. I noticed a difference in throw with just going to 5000k from 6000k bulbs previously.
If your headlight aim is bad they won't throw light far down the road.
If your lenses are clouded over they won't throw light properly either.
What may not help is how low these cars sit. It is going to impact the light throw distance. What I've done to help compensate a bit on mine was aim them instead of the standard 2" drop at 25 feet I make it just 1". Still low enough that only another fbody owner may notice but no one else will, but it gave more light down the road.
6500k is also more on the blue side which will affect that light output as well. I noticed a difference in throw with just going to 5000k from 6000k bulbs previously.
I plan of thoroughly cleaning the headlight lenses this weekend and also adjusting the aim of lights .
I knew 65000k was going to wash out the light a bit but hoped that 50watt kit vs 35watt was going to compensate for that.
Is that not the right way?
Bulb seating may also be an issue. Make sure the hotspot is centered at the top of the low beam pattern. If the hotspot is off to the side or low, then you'll lose distance.
Can you post pics of the headlights and the beam pattern?
Also, 50watt is not recommend in the Mini-H1 Projectors. It tends to ruin them over time.
Can you post pics of the headlights and the beam pattern?
Also, 50watt is not recommend in the Mini-H1 Projectors. It tends to ruin them over time.
I have read about it but cannot exactly understand what it means. It looks like bulb can really only go in one angle/direction.
Not overly concerned about life span of Mini-H1 projectors since this is only a nice weather weekend car.
I ll be working with it tomorrow so will get to get good pictures.
04-14-2018, 01:33 PM
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Regarding bulb seating, make sure the bulb is sitting flat and strait and not propped up in any way. The H1 bulb holder and H1 bulb base allows for some fitment issues sometimes, especially aftermarket stuff. Sometimes the bulb seat on the projector and the size/shape of the aftermarket bulb are slightly off too.
There are some threads on HID Planet talking about bulb seating and beam pattern with pictures of the issues. The Retrofit Source also sells alternate bulb holders for their Mini-H1 projectors which should hold the bulb better.
However, if the beam pattern looks correct, then the bulb may be seated properly, unless somehow is is sitting too far back in the projector. That scenario will give a good looking beam but dimmer hot spot and beam overall.
Can you post a pic of the beam pattern? Check out threads on HID Planet about bulb seating and beam pattern for the mini-hi projector.
There are some threads on HID Planet talking about bulb seating and beam pattern with pictures of the issues. The Retrofit Source also sells alternate bulb holders for their Mini-H1 projectors which should hold the bulb better.
However, if the beam pattern looks correct, then the bulb may be seated properly, unless somehow is is sitting too far back in the projector. That scenario will give a good looking beam but dimmer hot spot and beam overall.
Can you post a pic of the beam pattern? Check out threads on HID Planet about bulb seating and beam pattern for the mini-hi projector.
Last edited by VIP1; 04-14-2018 at 01:50 PM.
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04-16-2018, 02:22 AM
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I can't tell much from that pic. Can you take a pic in a wider area, aimed at a white wall 25ft away (without anything in the way)?
What I can see is that the beam isn't as well defined as it should be which is partly due to the cloudy housings.
What I can see is that the beam isn't as well defined as it should be which is partly due to the cloudy housings.
04-16-2018, 11:27 PM
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Looking at the added pictures, either the bulb isn't seated right or something is wrong with that projector or the bulb. Or maybe its the housing. The hot spot is off and the light is in a blob right in front of the car.
bad_408_vert, look at the pic Crf450r420 posted. It's a too close too really see the full beam, but you can see how the hot spot is at the step. Your headlights aren't like that.
Can you post a pic of the back of the projector where the bulb enters?
Make sure the bulb holder is fully attached correctly and no screw is crooked or sticking out which will prevent the bulb from seating correctly.
Beam pattern should look more like this:
https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...utput-w-issues
https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...recieved/page3
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/m...-housings.html
bad_408_vert, look at the pic Crf450r420 posted. It's a too close too really see the full beam, but you can see how the hot spot is at the step. Your headlights aren't like that.
Can you post a pic of the back of the projector where the bulb enters?
Make sure the bulb holder is fully attached correctly and no screw is crooked or sticking out which will prevent the bulb from seating correctly.
Beam pattern should look more like this:
https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...utput-w-issues
https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/for...recieved/page3
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/m...-housings.html
Last edited by VIP1; 04-16-2018 at 11:53 PM.