Why Carbon-Fiber?
Originally Posted by Silver02TA
carbon fiber accent pieces > ground effects
I see this getting locked sooner than later....
With that said, I like CF. My hood weighs ~5lbs. It isn't common, very unique. Not anyone can work with it. I think painted interior pieces look gaudy, cheap and don't last. Hence, my CF wrapped pieces look as good as day one.
With that said, I like CF. My hood weighs ~5lbs. It isn't common, very unique. Not anyone can work with it. I think painted interior pieces look gaudy, cheap and don't last. Hence, my CF wrapped pieces look as good as day one.
CF isn't my thing but I have seen some used where it doesn't look bad. It does have it's place and I would love a CF hood or body panels, I would just paint them. It just comes down to personal taste. Nothing wrong with it.
Originally Posted by Sgt. Spuds
tainted is so wasted right now..
hmm maybe noe of yall can find it. but get a clsoe up shot of a callaway C12's body pannels. its not jsut blue paint voer them. its carbon fiber thats directionally positioned so the threads interlock and create the image that its jsut blue paint until you look closer at it.
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Originally Posted by VSGLS1
I see this getting locked sooner than later....
With that said, I like CF. My hood weighs ~5lbs. It isn't common, very unique. Not anyone can work with it. I think painted interior pieces look gaudy, cheap and don't last. Hence, my CF wrapped pieces look as good as day one.
With that said, I like CF. My hood weighs ~5lbs. It isn't common, very unique. Not anyone can work with it. I think painted interior pieces look gaudy, cheap and don't last. Hence, my CF wrapped pieces look as good as day one.
as for carbon fiber, i love it. i just think the pattern looks pretty neat when its buried under a ton of resin. i have interior and engine bay accents dont with carbon fiber.
Originally Posted by VSGLS1
I see countless rattle can jobs at car shows that make me want to puke. If you don't prep the pieces correct, the paint will not last long.
I can just about guarantee you my painted interior pieces will outlast the car and will still shine as good as day one. No rattle can touches my car, only the best base coat/clear coat systems sprayed thru a high end Binks M1-G HVLP gun. This gun is better than what most pro painters at a body shop use and the paint I use is better too. You're right, prep is everything and a little skill and common sense goes a long way too.
Bryan
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PS. By the way, I love carbon fiber!!
I like CF, but don't like the idea of using overlays. Make the parts out of CF or Kevlar fibre. Then you get the look you want (paint a bit if you like), and the functionality. For instance, the airfoils on the back and the front spoiler on the McLaren F1 look awesome, and are fully functional.
I think it all comes down to what people like to see. You, for example, like the ground effects on your Camaro. In my opinion, they are really gross and ruin the lines of the Camaro. So what, it is your car and I don't have to do it to my car.
I like the way carbon fiber looks. It is an exotic look. Look at the interiors of many of the supr exotics, it is all exposed carbon fiber. Now granted, the pieces are wrapped in carbon fiber in our cars for looks, so what? You can call it rice if you want if you think spending money on a nice, high quality material to make your interior look more exotic is ricey. Personally, I think it is complete hotdog (american rice) to drive a great looking, great performing car with an interior that looks like something that belongs in a Fiero or a Tercel.
Again, it all comes down to opinion. Some people like the Tercel look, some like painted interiors, some like carbon fiber interiors, and one person (including you ), like ground effects on Camaros.
I like the way carbon fiber looks. It is an exotic look. Look at the interiors of many of the supr exotics, it is all exposed carbon fiber. Now granted, the pieces are wrapped in carbon fiber in our cars for looks, so what? You can call it rice if you want if you think spending money on a nice, high quality material to make your interior look more exotic is ricey. Personally, I think it is complete hotdog (american rice) to drive a great looking, great performing car with an interior that looks like something that belongs in a Fiero or a Tercel.
Again, it all comes down to opinion. Some people like the Tercel look, some like painted interiors, some like carbon fiber interiors, and one person (including you
), like ground effects on Camaros. What I don't understand is the people who say, " I like CF if it's functional, but it's rice if it's for appearance." These are the same people who cream their pants over chromed out and polished parts. My question is, exactly what function does a chromed bracket or a chromed brake fluid reservoir cover serve??? It boils down to a look and has nothing to do with being "rice" or not. I have actually grown to hate the term "rice" because it is so overused by closed minded people who have allowed the Honda/Toyota crowd to own certain things. I suppose a turbocharger or nitrous would be rice by that definition. CF is just another means to an end and that end is providing someone an appearance option that is pleasing to them or a structural option that benefits the performance of a vehicle.
Bryan
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Originally Posted by SVT THIS
I think it all comes down to what people like to see. You, for example, like the ground effects on your Camaro. In my opinion, they are really gross and ruin the lines of the Camaro. So what, it is your car and I don't have to do it to my car.
I like the way carbon fiber looks. It is an exotic look. Look at the interiors of many of the supr exotics, it is all exposed carbon fiber. Now granted, the pieces are wrapped in carbon fiber in our cars for looks, so what? You can call it rice if you want if you think spending money on a nice, high quality material to make your interior look more exotic is ricey. Personally, I think it is complete hotdog (american rice) to drive a great looking, great performing car with an interior that looks like something that belongs in a Fiero or a Tercel.
Again, it all comes down to opinion. Some people like the Tercel look, some like painted interiors, some like carbon fiber interiors, and one person (including you ), like ground effects on Camaros.
I like the way carbon fiber looks. It is an exotic look. Look at the interiors of many of the supr exotics, it is all exposed carbon fiber. Now granted, the pieces are wrapped in carbon fiber in our cars for looks, so what? You can call it rice if you want if you think spending money on a nice, high quality material to make your interior look more exotic is ricey. Personally, I think it is complete hotdog (american rice) to drive a great looking, great performing car with an interior that looks like something that belongs in a Fiero or a Tercel.
Again, it all comes down to opinion. Some people like the Tercel look, some like painted interiors, some like carbon fiber interiors, and one person (including you
), like ground effects on Camaros.But you are very right it all comes down to opinion. I just want to know why poeple like CF. If its not there to serve it purpose, they why have it? Like I said when tastefully done it does look very good. But majority of the time it's done like crap that brings the whole look of the vehicle down.
Oh and super exotics are for rich guys who cant change thier own oil. I would rather own a '84 F-15 painted primer gray with no CF interior pieces than some Ferrari Enzo just for the fact I know I can fix it and it goes faster.
Originally Posted by parbreak
What I don't understand is the people who say, " I like CF if it's functional, but it's rice if it's for appearance." These are the same people who cream their pants over chromed out and polished parts. My question is, exactly what function does a chromed bracket or a chromed brake fluid reservoir cover serve??? It boils down to a look and has nothing to do with being "rice" or not. I have actually grown to hate the term "rice" because it is so overused by closed minded people who have allowed the Honda/Toyota crowd to own certain things. I suppose a turbocharger or nitrous would be rice by that definition. CF is just another means to an end and that end is providing someone an appearance option that is pleasing to them or a structural option that benefits the performance of a vehicle.
Bryan
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Oh I cream in my pants for chrome and polished parts just for the simple fact it took a lot more work to make those parts and maintain them. Take FIREHAWK#608 for example: I have no clue how the **** he keeps the engine bay clean with all those chrome and polished parts but it takes work and that is better then the CF intake cover he posted on the first page thats bolts on! Once again you are also very right the term "rice" is overused, but I say pay attention to the details and everything else falls into place, and then there will be no need for the term rice. The comment you made was awesome and your last sentence was very true.
Jason
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Originally Posted by FIREHAWK#608
Bryan, I couldn't have said it better...
Carbon Fiber was used for military and space applications. It found it's way into race applications and high end exotics. If you don't like it...that's ok...that's your opinion. If you think that's RICE.....then you're a dumb s*%t.
I personally am starting to hate the word "RICE". It is the most close minded and idiotic term used on this forum....and most of the time it's used....it's just plain WRONG.
BTW....in case you haven't figured it out by my car....I love CF.
Originally Posted by zo6vette037
Oh I cream in my pants for chrome and polished parts just for the simple fact it took a lot more work to make those parts and maintain them. Take FIREHAWK#608 for example: I have no clue how the **** he keeps the engine bay clean with all those chrome and polished parts but it takes work and that is better then the CF intake cover he posted on the first page thats bolts on! Once again you are also very right the term "rice" is overused, but I say pay attention to the details and everything else falls into place, and then there will be no need for the term rice. The comment you made was awesome and your last sentence was very true.
Jason
Jason
Jason,
You have OBVIOUSLY never made or tried to make a carbon fiber part on your own. Since you brought up Firehawk#608, ask him what takes more technical skill and knowledge, polishing or making molds and parts out of CF or fiberglass for that matter. Yes, polishing is an art and an acquired skill, but a lot of people can do it. Making CF parts takes not only skill, but a LOT of background knowledge in material properties, measurement and fitment, and on and on. Don't knock something because it "looks" easy. Not arguing here, but I do have to take up for the people who have the creativity and skill to do these types of pieces. Yes, they may be gaudy, yes not everyone likes them, but HELL YES, they take some talent to make.
Bryan
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