Torque ding in 1/4 panel?
These "torque" marks....are they present on drivers side only? I have quite a few wavy dents in the pass. quarter that I never noticed in the past, but saw them prolly a few months ago. I will make about 120+ passes per year in the car, plus races on the street, but I am only putting down prolly 320 N/A.
Could they be torque dings??
Could they be torque dings??
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I'm with everybody that the pics are of door dings and not torque dimples. As has been said, they are in most cases too subtle to be captured on camera.
My experience: I had creases on each of my quarter panels from launching - the one on the right was 9" long! It actually crimped the metal at the wheel well edge; above that it grew more subtle. The one on the left was at a 45* angle to the ground and very subtle, but about 6" long.
I installed SFC's solely for the purpose of curing this and had the car PDR'd. After last season at the track, they have not come back. However, I do have fresh dimples on top of the quarter panels.
My experience: I had creases on each of my quarter panels from launching - the one on the right was 9" long! It actually crimped the metal at the wheel well edge; above that it grew more subtle. The one on the left was at a 45* angle to the ground and very subtle, but about 6" long.
I installed SFC's solely for the purpose of curing this and had the car PDR'd. After last season at the track, they have not come back. However, I do have fresh dimples on top of the quarter panels.
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Originally Posted by Justin00SS
Are hardtops less likely to get these? I don't think I have any but I'm only bolt-ons so...
Originally Posted by pHEnomIC
No. And if anyone wants to challenge me, ive done a ttop conversion myself and the extra metal the hardtops have is some super weak stamped metal that i was able to bend by hand.
I have long very suttle wavs in my quarter panel. I got the dint king guy to come fit them and he "massaged" them out. A week later, there back. I ask him if he's ever heard of the torque doing that and he's like "I've been doing this for 15 years and whoever told you that is smoking something" I personally believe it's the torque and body roll.
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The roof bar is tuff as hell and does not flex/distort at all, its like an integrated roll bar that continues behind the quarter panel and ties into the rocker panel. The quarter skin will flex but the roof bar doesnt flex, something has to give and this is why you get the dimples. The serious cars hanging the front wheels and torsionally twisting the body I can see adding to the problem but if you guys in your stockers or bolt on cars think you tweaking the body from torque then your dreaming. The rear of the car just hangs off the cabin erea of the car and theres nothing supporting it exept the unitized rails with a weak joint and a little suppt. from the quarter panels. You also have the fuel tank full of fuel, spare tire ect. all adding weight to the rear of the body that has little suppt. this combined with the nice Oklahoma roads and the rear of the car constantly bouncing around "exagerated" will make the quarter skins flex just enough that the dimples show up. The rear coil springs sit right in the middle of the weak joint so they dont offer any support to anything behind that point and the rear overhang on our cars is pretty good. A roll cage prefferably one that mounts on the floor over the unitized frame rail is the best bet to suppt. the rear and keep the dimples from happening.
Roll cages are for racing, they dont have crush zones built into them, thats exactly what there designed to eliminate. 98boxer looks like a classic example of hail damage, definately not torque or stress related.
Originally Posted by DONAIMIAN
True, either way its nothing you can do to completly prevent it. Even with a cage. A well designed cage should still be designed to keep crumple zones.
Last edited by Jeremiah; Jan 29, 2007 at 09:19 PM.
i had dimples above the rear passengers side wheel well, $75 and dentless removal and they are gone now. starting to see one coming back but well see. another problem is when i drive it hard the rear carpet between the speakers by the trunk will get creased and ill have to go back there and line it up again
tried to find some pics of it but dont have any, they are small dings about the size of a dime or smaller, more than enough to **** you off after a good hand wax job. nothing can prevent it but they are very easily fixed without any paint damage
tried to find some pics of it but dont have any, they are small dings about the size of a dime or smaller, more than enough to **** you off after a good hand wax job. nothing can prevent it but they are very easily fixed without any paint damage
Last edited by chrysler kid; May 9, 2007 at 01:43 AM.
Originally Posted by chrysler kid
another problem is when i drive it hard the rear carpet between the speakers by the trunk will get creased and ill have to go back there and line it up again
Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Is there any company that makes rear strut braces or something that like that(for a street car), that could strengthen the rear to get rid of these damn dimples for good?
