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Soaps that wont leave water marks??

Old 03-23-2007, 07:35 PM
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Today i just finished washing my moms 07 Black Yukon and i cant seem toget rid of the water spots, is there car wash soaps that wont leave water spots, and also will the water spots be there permanentlyand if they do would a wax remove them or clay bar?
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I recommend drying the car in the shade and keep it real wet while you're washing it. I use Zaino wash and have a hose in one hand to keep water spots from forming. Then when I rinse off the car really well, I'll pull it out of the sun to dry it. This way seems to work to keep the water spots from forming.

A claybar will take care of some waterspots. So will quick detailer and some elbow grease. Black cars are a beotch though, I know your pain.
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i picked up some soap from costco and it says it wont leave soap spots
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Old 03-23-2007, 08:39 PM
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It's not the soap, it's the water. Water spots are caused by the minerals in your water. When the water evaporates, all that is left are the minerals (calcium, fluoride, chlorine, sodium chloride, etc.).

Some tips:
  • Wash/dry in the shade, as cool as possible.
  • Rinse often.
  • Rinse without a nozzle, just a strong stream of water. Let the water sheet off as much as possible.
  • Use a good towel for drying (I prefer waffle weave microfiber towels), but don't use too much pressure (that causes swirls).
  • Keeping a good layer of wax on the car REALLY helps.
  • Using a quick detailing spray after washing and drying helps remove water spots.
  • For water spots that are more stubborn, I try (in order):
    • 50/50 mix of white vinegar and distilled water
    • Claybar
    • Polisher (this is REALLY rare)
    • Always follow any of these up with wax
  • Don't let water spots sit too long. They can eat through clearcoat.
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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
It's not the soap, it's the water. Water spots are caused by the minerals in your water. When the water evaporates, all that is left are the minerals (calcium, fluoride, chlorine, sodium chloride, etc.).

Some tips:
  • Wash/dry in the shade, as cool as possible.
  • Rinse often.
  • Rinse without a nozzle, just a strong stream of water. Let the water sheet off as much as possible.
  • Use a good towel for drying (I prefer waffle weave microfiber towels), but don't use too much pressure (that causes swirls).
  • Keeping a good layer of wax on the car REALLY helps.
  • Using a quick detailing spray after washing and drying helps remove water spots.
  • For water spots that are more stubborn, I try (in order):
    • 50/50 mix of white vinegar and distilled water
    • Claybar
    • Polisher (this is REALLY rare)
    • Always follow any of these up with wax
  • Don't let water spots sit too long. They can eat through clearcoat.
-Mike
what he said.

ya, its the water not the soap, the **** where you dont have to dry is like that because it filters the water.
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So the soaps that are suppose to not leave water marks, do they filter the water.
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Originally Posted by Candyredz28
So the soaps that are suppose to not leave water marks, do they filter the water.
Exactly. For example, the Mr. Clean system uses a soap that is low suds (which I don't like, FWIW) and a filter to help get rid of most of the crap. If you have a water softener or a filtration system in your house, you'll see fewer spots.


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Yup, the Mr. Clean system does a good job of eliminating water spots. I stopped using it though because kind of leaves a film behind and I heard its pretty hard on your wax. Plus I could never seem to get that crap completely out of my wash mitt. My pops still uses it though, its very convenient for him. You just need to wash your car late in the day when the sun isn't so intense and keep the car wet at all times.
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Zaino, don't put anymore wax on your vehicle. Zaino is a polish that is 99.9% optically clear
*wash in the shade, with dawn dish soap, to remove wax
*frequently rinse do not let soap dry on vehicle
*start of by using the zaino quick detailer
*mix swirl cutter and polish then a couple drop of accelerator
*let it haze
*wipe off with microfiber towel
*another cleaning with the detailer
*then repeat 3-7

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its the water you use, i thought that when i first washed cars but if you want to try and avoid it the best you can do what Phantom said and try keeping it wet untell its time to dry, i use a terry cloth to because even if the cloth is wet it still helps to keep the spots from forming and the sun will do the rest
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Originally Posted by chupr0kabra
It's not the soap, it's the water.
Old 03-24-2007, 02:08 PM
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Hard water causes water spots. I know on my old Grand Prix the windows were water spotted like no tomorrow, so I got fine steel wool, sprayed glass cleaner on it and the windows and went to town. Did a decent job.
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Mr.Clean Autodry car wash system worked great whenever I used it. Left my windows without waterspots also. The soap just sucks and the spayer is kinda bulky.
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i spray the car really hard with a sprayer before and after soaping. then i take the nozzel off and let it pour onto the car. i take a beach towel thats never been to the beach and dry it quickly.
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Most good quality car wash soap is fine---Meguiers I think is great...also depends on how HARD or SOFT your local water is...here, we are lucky, because we have 100% Mountain Runoff..which is very,very,soft. I have used cheaper car wash soap and didn't wind up with spots---I even let it dry itself in the garage by itself--sometimes..-[when I am too damn lazy]..
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I don't think I had real bad water but when I first got my GN but I always had that problem. I did pretty much everything mentioned here and still had those damn spots. My dad owned 7 GN's and he never had that problem so I asked how he did it. He said just dry it off with a clean chamois. I tried it and never had the problem again and never had any of more of those fine scratches that only show up when the sun hits the car either. One time I didn't have a chamois and I used some microfibre towels and right away I could start seeing little scratches again when the sun hit the car just right. My car didn't need waxed near as much after that either.

Other than that the #1 thing is never wash a black car in the sun or when the paint is warm.
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I am surprised no one mentioned anything about Black Magic soap when talking about car wash soap. I have been using for a while now and very pleased with the results.
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Unless your have stubborn water spots after the wash/wipe down, you can use a diluted solution of distilled white vinegar/water with a microfiber towel to gently remove the water spotting. Once removed follow up with sealant, wax, or detail spray to complete your task.

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