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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 12:01 AM
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Ok i know im gonna get bashed for this but is there any pictures with HID"s in Halos? I cant seem to find any after searching. Thanks for the help
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 01:28 AM
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you won't get bashed, plenty of people in here have halos...

Brian2006! Get in here and post some old pics...
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 02:10 AM
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there is no diff of HIDs in halos or regular light....?
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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No difference in lighting. Old pics:



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there is no diff of HIDs in halos or regular light....?
Yes there is a difference. Halogen Reflectors can't handle the light output of HID (usually....well almost always). They send too much light upwards and often produce other oddities that lead to a bad (and often blinding) beam pattern. Many people do it anyway.

If you are talking about the Halo projectors, then putting HID in them will produce a beam pattern similar to when they had Halogen bulbs installed (but brighter). Unfortunately, the Halo projectors used a low quality Fog Light projector. Maybe someone can retrofit a TSX projector in its place.
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Yes there is a difference. Halogen Reflectors can't handle the light output of HID (usually....well almost always). They send too much light upwards and often produce other oddities that lead to a bad (and often blinding) beam pattern. Many people do it anyway.

If you are talking about the Halo projectors, then putting HID in them will produce a beam pattern similar to when they had Halogen bulbs installed (but brighter). Unfortunately, the Halo projectors used a low quality Fog Light projector. Maybe someone can retrofit a TSX projector in its place.
He is talking about the actual headlight housings of halos and factory. Not HIDs and halogen. As long as the same bulb is used, the lighting should be the same in halos or stock
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian2006
He is talking about the actual headlight housings of halos and factory. Not HIDs and halogen. As long as the same bulb is used, the lighting should be the same in halos or stock
He's talking about putting HID in a Halogen Reflector. My point stands.
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I like mine... I want to do the fogs as well. No one flashes me.
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by VIP1
He's talking about putting HID in a Halogen Reflector. My point stands.
Well whatever he is talking about (I'm assuming regular light to him = factory headlight.... who knows) the light output with the same bulb will be identical in halos and stock headlights since they use the same reflector housing.

Only difference in halos is the little insert
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^^^ your car looks cold!!! lol
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Thx for the posts i aprreciate it, Yes i was talking about what Brian2006 has on his car (btw your car is one of my favorites on ls1tech) , i was wondering if it would look right and it does. I plan on putting 6000k in my headlights and foglights.
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Originally Posted by ReApEr75
Thx for the posts i aprreciate it, Yes i was talking about what Brian2006 has on his car (btw your car is one of my favorites on ls1tech) , i was wondering if it would look right and it does. I plan on putting 6000k in my headlights and foglights.
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brian2006, I think vip is one of the guys that believes HID's need to be in projector style headlamps, or have a specific light blocker. Many guys think that we blind everyone else on the road. I can not imagine this being true, because you can focus your lights. If you are getting flashed a bunch then you can just aim them more down. Even with mine at 10000K, they still produce a greater light intensity than the stock bulbs. However, I have had mine in my halo lamps for almost two years, and never been flashed. Everyone thinks my lights look great at night, and someone actually thought I was driving a 350Z(350Z has projector style HID's, and I was coming up from behind him). So, I find it hard to believe that I blind everyone.

To the OP, I have lights like brian2006, but mine are black. See sig.
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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his without the cutoff or projector are harder to control. light scatters places.

i aim mine down too, just to be kind to others on the road
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Originally Posted by H21surfer
brian2006, I think vip is one of the guys that believes HID's need to be in projector style headlamps, or have a specific light blocker.
Its not a belief, its scientific fact.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html
I can site many more references with plenty of pictures.

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Many guys think that we blind everyone else on the road.
Not all Halogen Reflectors produce a horrible beam with HID, but most do. A few are barely passable while a few do ok (rare).

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I can not imagine this being true, because you can focus your lights.
Wrong. You can aim your lights, not focus them. You have no control over the glare they produce.

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If you are getting flashed a bunch then you can just aim them more down.
Losing the benefit of HID. Whats the point of higher output if you have to aim the at the ground? I bet your answer is that you can still see just fine.... but thats thanks to the increased upward light aka glare.

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Even with mine at 10000K, they still produce a greater light intensity than the stock bulbs.
The K number is not the brightness. It is the color. As the color temperature (K number) goes up, the light gets bluer then purpler. Also, as the color temperature increases (K number goes up) the lumen output decreases (the actual measure of light). Therefore 4300K HID (OEM color) is brighter than your aftermaket 10000k. Also, our eyes are least sensitive to blue light, which is another reason why 4300k is better.

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However, I have had mine in my halo lamps for almost two years, and never been flashed. Everyone thinks my lights look great at night, and someone actually thought I was driving a 350Z(350Z has projector style HID's, and I was coming up from behind him). So, I find it hard to believe that I blind everyone.
You've been lucky.

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VIP1 you are SERIOUSLY reading way out of the box here. This thread is not relating the difference between HIDs and Halogen bulbs. It is SIMPLY relating difference between the ebay halo headlight output compared to the stock camaro headlight output. It's a reality that there will be a lot of glare with HIDs in halogen reflector housings, but that's not the point of this thread.

Hope that helps clear up the confusion.

So to the OP, in conclusion, you will have the same light output regardless of the type of lighting. Whether you use HIDs or halogens, the light is not affected by the halo insert.
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Originally Posted by Brian2006
So to the OP, in conclusion, you will have the same light output regardless of the type of lighting. Whether you use HIDs or halogens, the light is not affected by the halo insert.
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Read the OP...

His question was " Pic's of HID's in HALOS"!! He did not ask for an opinion of the difference between Projectors/HID's, Halos' HID's...

Nobody cares what you think about who uses HID's in there stock housings/HALO's..!

Oh, BTW... here's mine... Hope to see you on the HWY@ night VIP1...

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Originally Posted by VIP1
Its not a belief, its scientific fact.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html
I can site many more references with plenty of pictures.


Not all Halogen Reflectors produce a horrible beam with HID, but most do. A few are barely passable while a few do ok (rare).


Wrong. You can aim your lights, not focus them. You have no control over the glare they produce.


Losing the benefit of HID. Whats the point of higher output if you have to aim the at the ground? I bet your answer is that you can still see just fine.... but thats thanks to the increased upward light aka glare.


The K number is not the brightness. It is the color. As the color temperature (K number) goes up, the light gets bluer then purpler. Also, as the color temperature increases (K number goes up) the lumen output decreases (the actual measure of light). Therefore 4300K HID (OEM color) is brighter than your aftermaket 10000k. Also, our eyes are least sensitive to blue light, which is another reason why 4300k is better.


You've been lucky.
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Originally Posted by VIP1
Its not a belief, its scientific fact.
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...nversions.html
http://www.intellexual.net/hid.html
I can site many more references with plenty of pictures.


Not all Halogen Reflectors produce a horrible beam with HID, but most do. A few are barely passable while a few do ok (rare).


Wrong. You can aim your lights, not focus them. You have no control over the glare they produce.


Losing the benefit of HID. Whats the point of higher output if you have to aim the at the ground? I bet your answer is that you can still see just fine.... but thats thanks to the increased upward light aka glare.


The K number is not the brightness. It is the color. As the color temperature (K number) goes up, the light gets bluer then purpler. Also, as the color temperature increases (K number goes up) the lumen output decreases (the actual measure of light). Therefore 4300K HID (OEM color) is brighter than your aftermaket 10000k. Also, our eyes are least sensitive to blue light, which is another reason why 4300k is better.


You've been lucky.
Listen man, I have a college degree in this... You really do not have to lecture me. Also, my lights are not aimed at the ground. However, I still do not think I am blinding anyone, and not one person, police included, has stated that my lights are a hazard. It is not that im lucky, it is just not that big of a deal in these cars. Hell, the big trucks and SUV's lights are at equal height of our eyes(of course sitting in the car), and when they get up on my bumper or pass me... Guess what? I get a little blinded.

I will admit, using the term "focus," was wrong. However, the way you described the "K-number" is crap. The reason I stated my lights were 10000K was because some people think it is harder to see at that high of a temperature. That was nothing to do with it blinding, or not blinding traffic.

Really, the standard reflectors will work, and the light is going to reflect the same way. The only thing that changes is the intensity, how light is emitted(electrons arc across gas, instead of heating a thin wire), and the temperature at which the gas burns.

You are also wrong at which lumens is the measure of light... A lumen is the SI unit of luminous flux, and that is the measure of the power of the light at which we can see. So, it has nothing to do with intensity at all. It can actually be considered a unit of power. A candela is acutally the SI unit of luminous intensity. The reason the blue colored headlights seem to produce less light is because it has a smaller range on the electromagnetic spectrum(white light is a mixture of primary colors of light, while blue takes up a wavelength of 450-500nm)

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