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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Hey guy how do u a4 guys race from a roll I've been tryin two way leavin it in D or 3rd. Or say on a 40 roll puting it 2nd. I usually lose when in D because of the kick down n then I'm playin catch up when in second its a differnt story. I don't have a stall yet but any advice u guyz have is much appreciated thanks!
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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When I roll race i usually have it in drive. Get you a shift kit and tune and it will be alot better. Do you ever race from a digg or is it all from a roll?
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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Hey guy how do u a4 guys race from a roll I've been tryin two way leavin it in D or 3rd. Or say on a 40 roll puting it 2nd. I usually lose when in D because of the kick down n then I'm playin catch up when in second its a differnt story. I don't have a stall yet but any advice u guyz have is much appreciated thanks!
Keep it in D and race from your sweet spots while avoiding the dead spots. For example when I had a stockish car with 3.23 gears my sweet spots were 0-30 and 55-70. But my dead spot was 31-50. If I was in my dead spot and wanted to raced then I would either slow down or speed up to get into a sweet spot.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:05 PM
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I do better when i down shift mine
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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Step 1: put it in D, race from 10-20 mph.

Step 2: brake stall the car so the converter is already loaded and in gear.

ONE TWO THREE and let off the brake and mash the gas!

Have fun raping M6s all day. Make sure you tell them dakota said HA HA HA!
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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^ You better have some good tires for that .
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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get a stall!! that will help u big time!!! i have a stage 2 4L60E so i just leave it in OD for everything and let the tranny do its job.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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Make sure OD is off. Get a stall. Win Races.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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i will pull mine down to second for roll races(30-60mph). as soon as im on the gas i click it to drive bc if you wait for the revs to climb then click it then it wont shift and you will SLAM the rev limiter and lose the race.
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Old Nov 19, 2008 | 11:30 PM
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i will pull mine down to second for roll races(30-60mph). as soon as im on the gas i click it to drive bc if you wait for the revs to climb then click it then it wont shift and you will SLAM the rev limiter and lose the race.
This is what I do. Granted I hardly every roll race but if I do it I will shift it to the sweet spots. Most will say its bad and I won't deny it but it works and you really can't lose like that if you know what you are doing.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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i hit a button i wired in that switches to a different set of shift tables ("performance") that i have edited in my tune. it then drops me into the gear i want with the converter unlocked (you don't hear the downshift or rpm's go up). when i mash the pedal, i'm already stalled up in the right gear.

if you want to roll race in your auto, get a converter. 100+ shot of nitrous helps kill the dead spots too.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 03:09 AM
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i didnt get a stalled automatic to roll race is what i tell'em..lol
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 10:06 AM
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Never roll race in OD. Best way ever invented to frag a trans. Leave it in D and hit it when you're in your sweet spot(s). Mine are 25 and 55.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 11:59 AM
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When I leave it in D my car will sometimes hit the rev limiter at WOT.....
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
i will pull mine down to second for roll races(30-60mph). as soon as im on the gas i click it to drive bc if you wait for the revs to climb then click it then it wont shift and you will SLAM the rev limiter and lose the race.
ive always done the same thing this guy just said! ^ works wonderfull for me but im about to get a stall to help out as well
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
i will pull mine down to second for roll races(30-60mph). as soon as im on the gas i click it to drive bc if you wait for the revs to climb then click it then it wont shift and you will SLAM the rev limiter and lose the race.
I have always heard that manually downshifting a stock 4L60E is hard on the transmission. Not that it'll break it obviously but that it'll help to shorten it's lifespan which is short enough as it is.

A built one from a sponsor might be able to handle the stress a little better.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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Everyone with stalls how much did it affect your dead spot? im looking at getting one in the next couple months
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
I have always heard that manually downshifting a stock 4L60E is hard on the transmission. Not that it'll break it obviously but that it'll help to shorten it's lifespan which is short enough as it is.

A built one from a sponsor might be able to handle the stress a little better.

yeah probally very true since my tranny is kinda messed up now (it wont shift into 3rd under WOT, but driving normal its fine)... but i would rather downshift and win than not. i leave it in drive(3rd) at the track tho i just downshift to 2nd on the street cuz i have no low end since my long tubes for some reason
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FireSilverLullaby
Everyone with stalls how much did it affect your dead spot? im looking at getting one in the next couple months
Any stall will improve the dead spot. A friend of mine had a 3000 stall and his dead spot was noticeably improved but also still noticeable.

I used to have a TCI 3500 and my dead spot was very much improved but likewise still noticeable. Now I have a 4400 stall and the dead spot is gone.

The higher you go in stall size the better the dead spot becomes. On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being a stock stall deadspot and 10 being an eliminated dead spot, I would rate it is follows:

3000 stall = 5

3500 stall = 7

4000 stall = 9

That's the best I can explain it. My advice is to get at least a 3600 stall. 3600-4000 is a good size even for bolt on cars and N20 users.

Hope that helps.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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All I know,, Is don't try an roll race a TH400 without any power adders!!!! TH400's suck *** at rolls....
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