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Old Dec 2, 2008 | 07:12 PM
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OK I just want to make sure I have everyhting for my torque coonvertor and shift kit install.

Circle D Torque Convertor
TransGo HD-2 shift kit
TransGo Aluminum Forward Accumulator
TransGo Aluminum 1-2 Accumulator
TransGo Seperater Plate
B&M Trans Cooler
and of course fluid and filter.

Will a 14,000 BTU cooler be enough for a 3000 stall convertor? I might be able to get a new open box one very cheap. Am I missing anything? Thanks

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OK I just want to make sure I have everyhting for my torque coonvertor and shift kit install.

Circle D Torque Convertor
TransGo HD-2 shift kit
TransGo Aluminum Forward Accumulator
TransGo Aluminum 1-2 Accumulator
TransGo Seperater Plate
B&M Trans Coller
and of course fluid and filter.

Will a 14,000 BTU cooler be enough for a 3000 stall convertor? I might be able to get a new open box one very cheap. Am I missing anything? Thanks
I waited on the accumulators, pin diameters vary. I went with one stock and one Sonnax pinless.

You should get a front seal.
The HD-2 kit comes with some internal parts that should be installed. Good time for a beast sunshell, better 3-4 clutch set, TransGo pump ring kit ($10), pump bushing, pump o-ring, pump gasket. That o-ring that goes on the input shaft. Pump bolt o-rings.
Thats what I did. EDIT: the kit has you adjust the servo, so new servo cover o-rings, might as well change the servo rings while you're right there. You can get the parts cheap seperate or get a paper and rubber kit for around $40, and it even comes with new sep plate screens.

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I wasn't planing on doing the internal part of the instal, just the valve body stuff. As far as the acuumulators go I just wanted some metal ones to replace the plastic crap. There has to be a way to know your pin diameter before you take them out. Also, where can I get this stuff from? I was going to get all of it from summit but they don't have any of it in stock.

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OK I have looked at damn near all the sponcers and I can't find any of these parts. Some one help please. The accumulators and seperator plate don't have to be transgo. Thanks.
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id get at least a 24k gvw cooler and a trans temp gauge at the least. a deep trans pan couldnt hurt either. i have all 3 of these items on my vig3600 daily driver and have never seen the trans temps over 170 degrees
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I've been reading more and I'm so confused about the accumulators. What exactley is the cheapest way to go with the accumulators to get rid of the plastic ones and have them work with the HD 2 shift kit. Thanks.
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OK I have looked at damn near all the sponcers and I can't find any of these parts. Some one help please. The accumulators and seperator plate don't have to be transgo. Thanks.
Try here.
Or HERE.
All transgo or sonnax if you can find your way around the sites.
And yes you do need to know the pin diameter by looking at it, you can't guess, some got one size some got another.
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question if the spring in the accumulator brakes can it make the 1-2 shift soft and long
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Dont worry about anything but your 3000 Stall and a Tranny Cooler. Maybe pick a new input shaft seal up and call it a day. Just my .02.
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I would love to make it that simple. But, I've been reading that a higher stall TC can cause ships to be soft and kinda crapy.
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I think I've sorta figure this out. If I get pinless accummulators it doesn't matter what my pin size is. But how many accumulators are there. I think theres a forward, a 1-2 and maybe a 3-4? Is that right? With one of the accumulators don't I have to stick with a stock style in order to use the HD-2 kit? Which one is it? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by CayenneRedV6
I would love to make it that simple. But, I've been reading that a higher stall TC can cause ships to be soft and kinda crapy.
If your going with a 3000 stall you have NOTHING to worry about. There are plenty of members running 4000 Stalls with no shift kit. I plan on putting the 3800 in my sig in sometime soon and i myself will not be running a shift kit either.

However if its something you want to do, props to ya man. Good luck!
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Originally Posted by CayenneRedV6
I think I've sorta figure this out. If I get pinless accummulators it doesn't matter what my pin size is. But how many accumulators are there. I think theres a forward, a 1-2 and maybe a 3-4? Is that right? With one of the accumulators don't I have to stick with a stock style in order to use the HD-2 kit? Which one is it? Thanks.

I kept my 1-2 because it was aluminum, I don't know if you can use a pinless with the transgo stuff on that one.
I got a pinless for the forward accumulator because it was plastic and had a smaller pin.
Those are the only two. EDIT--I forgot about the Fourth gear accumulator. IIRC I used my stock one and it was aluminum. I always plug the feed hole for that one so for me it didn't matter.
The trans is a 2002, I've seen older transmissions that used the same accumulator piston in both FYI.

From my experience when the spring in the 1-2 accumulator breaks it makes it shift harder because it looses it's movement. But like always, failures can have many different symtoms.
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I guess i could always just install the TC and then get my tune and if I'm still not satisified I could then get a shift kit. Because its not like the tranny will have to come back out to do a shift kit. But my main concern was I have heard that just relying on the tune to help improve shift firmness was bad for the tranny. It's just getting kind of irretating because everything I want to do this car ends up with me reading all this stuff on here that I need to do this, this and this at the same time. I guess thats the nature of the beast though.

Any way so if I just do the 3000-3200 stall convertor and then get it tuned, that should take care of some of the deffiencies of this tranny?

Thanks.
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I'm going to break into the extra LT1 4l60e I have soon to do some work to. This thread has been very helpful.
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Originally Posted by CayenneRedV6
I guess i could always just install the TC and then get my tune and if I'm still not satisified I could then get a shift kit. Because its not like the tranny will have to come back out to do a shift kit. But my main concern was I have heard that just relying on the tune to help improve shift firmness was bad for the tranny. It's just getting kind of irretating because everything I want to do this car ends up with me reading all this stuff on here that I need to do this, this and this at the same time. I guess thats the nature of the beast though.

Any way so if I just do the 3000-3200 stall convertor and then get it tuned, that should take care of some of the deffiencies of this tranny?

Thanks.
If you read "stuff you should do" for every part you put in your car you will be spending alot more on "necessities" then actual parts. Its just easier to do some things while you have it apart. The ONLY things you actually NEED for a stall swap is an input shaft seal and a trans cooler.

No need for a shift kit but i have read it does shift better. Your trans will be perfectly fine either way. Many people over 100k miles are not running shift kits with 3800-4400 stalls. Dont worry about it, especially if your only going with a 3000-3200 stall. Its mostly in the tune anyway, just make sure you have a good tuner who knows what they are doing.

On another note, did you buy a stall yet?
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My replies are often based on doing it 100% right. I try anyway.

Now the transgo kit you mention comes with stronger 3-4 release springs, and stronger forward springs.

Now read this
Originally Posted by tunedportcj5
I was having the same issues with my trans, went through several sets of 3-4 clutches. The HD set of 3-4 return springs worked for me. The clutches were centrifugally applying.
It's currently in a post floating around very close to this one. Click on the blue box to go to it.
And these are parts you're going to have and not install.
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I haven't got the torque convertor yet. I was planing on going with CircleD's 11" 3000-3200 stall, I haven't decided which yet. I'm only doing the stall because I'm going to do a cam over the summer and I don't want to fight the car at traffic lights. So for the time being I'm just going with enough stall to make the car drivable. Thanks.
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