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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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I'm about to have a cam installed, and with the stock stall, i can run a 224r 114lsa cam no problem. Well I really want a 228r 112lsa cam, but I would need a stall.

My question is, if I get a 3500 or so stall, would there be a HUGE difference in acceleration? I've never driven a stalled car before, so I have no idea what to expect.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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i did my stall before my cam and the car seems to acclerate 10 times faster than stock. I now have a tr230 cam and edge stall. When driving around normal the stall is barely noticeable. But under WOT the car is a blast to drive. I recommend a good stall.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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I wanna do a cam to my car too. I wonder at what point on a stock car with a cam you would need a stall?
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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I wanna do a cam to my car too. I wonder at what point on a stock car with a cam you would need a stall?
Whats mods do you have done to your car right now?
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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Huge difference. Like a shot of nitrous but no bottle to refill.

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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:22 AM
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Huge difference. Like a shot of nitrous but no bottle to refill.

Chris
Hey buddy, I need to give you a call. I'm about to have a cam installed by G-force, and was thinking about getting a stall from you.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Circle-D
Huge difference. Like a shot of nitrous but no bottle to refill.

Chris
Very true
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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stalls are a huge difference on a stock car. modded cars even better.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:48 AM
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It should be one of the first mod you do when you have an automatic.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:56 AM
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Stalls make a very big difference ( if you can hook up ) . My ride with stock converter, D/R's and -85 d.a went 13.1 .
With my Yank ss4000 stall ,I went 12.52 in +1428 d.a. Thats 12.33 corrected . 8 tenths !!
I dropped .25 off of my 60 ft . Thats a real good reason for a stall This is on a stock motor too ! No headers ,stock LS1 intake .
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Old May 22, 2010 | 10:19 AM
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I felt like I gained more from the stall than I did from the TR230 cam....should be the first mod for an auto car period.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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There was a post where someone went from a stock stall to I believe a Yank PT4000 and knocked a full second off the times. From around 13.00 to around 12.00. So yes, a stall can make a huge difference.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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I love my stall running a ss3600. Unfortunatly I havnt got to the track cause all I got is street tires so I dont see the point.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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Try this with a stock stall, forcing the tranny to hold 2nd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=napcHyy5WZA

Or this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaMvlo_2s_s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guFy2Nb9MxE
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Old May 22, 2010 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Billy1987
Whats mods do you have done to your car right now?

Not much just SLP lid, K&N, TB bypass, no cats, V force. It;s an auto and I am doing LT headers and 373 gears soon. Unsure of the right cam though. Don't want something with too big of a lift but def not mild either.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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right now, all i have is full intake and full exhaust. if i go to a 228r, 3600 stall, and a tune, will it be like a new car? also, would it even be worth putting 3.73's in?
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As far as the feel, I think mine feels less responsive and I know there are other who feels the same, but it did knock 7 tenths off of my 1/4 and gained me 3 mph.

You don't need the gears. With the cam and the stall it will be much faster.
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Old May 22, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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it would complement the cam/stall with gear though thats no doubt!
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Originally Posted by 1qwkz
it would complement the cam/stall with gear though thats no doubt!
Gears would make it drive better, but they wouldn't do much towards making it faster.
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Originally Posted by JonCR96Z
Gears would make it drive better, but they wouldn't do much towards making it faster.

^^^this...
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