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Old 02-08-2011 | 10:09 PM
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If I put in a 3500 stall on a purely bolt on LS1 2000 Trans Am, how will it drive. I don't race it, but will it drive better with the bigger stall in it. It's just a drive on nice day car and it doesn't have a cam. All it has is a lid, P&P TB, K&N filter, LT's, Hi-Flow cats, and true duals w/ an X pipe and LM1's under the axle and out the back. Can someone please explain to me in detail exactly what this will do to my car as far as normal driving is concerned. I understand that it will allow me to "power brake" it up to 3500RPM's before the tires move, but like I said I don't race so what benefits would I get from one of these on my car as a normal street driver. Is it worth it? I MAY do a cam later but have not decided.
Old 02-08-2011 | 10:28 PM
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It's purely for performance. If your not racing you don't need one. If you had a big ol floppy cam, you would. But with bolt ons and you intent, you dont
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Originally Posted by PheonixLS1
If I put in a 3500 stall on a purely bolt on LS1 2000 Trans Am, how will it drive. I don't race it, but will it drive better with the bigger stall in it. It's just a drive on nice day car and it doesn't have a cam. All it has is a lid, P&P TB, K&N filter, LT's, Hi-Flow cats, and true duals w/ an X pipe and LM1's under the axle and out the back. Can someone please explain to me in detail exactly what this will do to my car as far as normal driving is concerned. I understand that it will allow me to "power brake" it up to 3500RPM's before the tires move, but like I said I don't race so what benefits would I get from one of these on my car as a normal street driver. Is it worth it? I MAY do a cam later but have not decided.
If you get a cam you will have to have a stall. And also a 3500 stall will not alow you to power brake the car to 3500. It would be more like 2800. It also gives you way better response when you stomp it from a roll and it downshifts it puts you in your powerband faster, so when you go to pass a car it will be much faster getting around. Driving around town you will have to give it more gas to move and when it shifts ur shift extension is a lot higher with a stall.
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If your not going to put a bigger cam in then just put a 3k or 3200 stall. Dont ever go over 3500 for a daily driver. Make sure you tranny is good enough to put a new stall in.
Old 02-09-2011 | 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dnkynrbk
Dont ever go over 3500 for a daily driver.

Whys that?? I'm pretty sure it comes down to what the person can put up with on a daily basis..

Some people think 3500 is big, others think 3500 is on the smaller side..

I personally think the 3600-4000 area works good with for most peoples boltons and/or cammed LS1's.. But i'm a big stall lover.. go big or go home, haha.
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Originally Posted by SuperSlow02
It's purely for performance. If your not racing you don't need one.
Meh, ..., Don't listen to that, ..., Do it, you'll enjoy driving it much more during the heavy throttle occasions.

As you said, it's a weekend cruiser, & it has some bolt-on mod's.
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Originally Posted by PontiacFan
Meh, ..., Don't listen to that, ..., Do it, you'll enjoy driving it much more during the heavy throttle occasions.

As you said, it's a weekend cruiser, & it has some bolt-on mod's.
the OP wasnt asking for a "fun Factor" but for it to drive netter, and with being basically stock it wouldnt drive better, but worse...so to say. Not disagreeing with you, it would definently wake the car up and be tons more fun to drive. Just trying to answer the OP as best as possible
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So I should wait and do the stall with my cam then???
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you put a 3500 stall in,you might like it so much that you might not want to put a cam in.
you didn't state what gears you have.
with 2.73s,the rpm necessary to get the car moving will be annoying in the beginning and you might get used to it,3.23s' won't be as 'bad',3.73s' even better.
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Originally Posted by PheonixLS1
So I should wait and do the stall with my cam then???
Stalls are awesome with or without a cam. Get the stall and than do the cam
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My first 3 mods that I recommend are:

Sticky tires
Converter
Nitrous

If you don't want to go fast from a dead stop and you don't want to get some good sticky tires... don't do a converter. What it does is make your car feel like it has 100 more HP when you take off, unless you have crappy tires, than you will be able to spin your tires at will from a dead stop. Usually its worth a half second reduction in quarter mile times. Or 5 car lengths roughly..

My opinion, its a better mod than all that you have done so far.

I enjoy driving a 4500 stall but feel that 5000 is a bit much.
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Originally Posted by AutoRoc
My first 3 mods that I recommend are:

Sticky tires
Converter
Nitrous

If you don't want to go fast from a dead stop and you don't want to get some good sticky tires... don't do a converter. What it does is make your car feel like it has 100 more HP when you take off, unless you have crappy tires, than you will be able to spin your tires at will from a dead stop. Usually its worth a half second reduction in quarter mile times. Or 5 car lengths roughly..

My opinion, its a better mod than all that you have done so far.

I enjoy driving a 4500 stall but feel that 5000 is a bit much.
My car NEVER has and NEVER will see track time. Like I said its a drive on a nice day car I just want to wake it up alittle and was looking at how a stall will effect normal driving. I know what it will do for take off and high speed performance but that was not my question. So, sticky's and NOS are not worth me spending the money on as this car is not, nor never will be a drag car. I'll pop someone at a light every now and then if they tempt me but thats the only "racing" this car sees. So back to my original post, how will a stall affect my NORMAL EVERYDAY RUN OF THE MILL DRIVING!!!
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Since you are asking an opinion question, ....
In my 'opinion', ..., It won't effect it.
It will still move when you press the gas pedal.
But I can almost gaurantee, you'll get that damn leadfoot syndrome rather quickly.

Yes, you may lose some minimal mpg even if you drive it exactly as you had before.

You seem to be looking for justification to do it, to maybe NOT do it.
No one else can answer your opinion question.

Do it. If you don't like it, un-do it.
I did it, & will never look back, ..., but will eventually look forward to a higher rom converter one of these days.




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