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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 03:37 AM
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I have a 2000 TA with a 228r cam, stock rear gears, Pacesetter Lts, Ls6 manifold and supporting bolt ons. I am still trying to figure out what would be the best stall for my setup, what would be the best stall for daily driving, sometimes in stop and go traffic, and still hit hard when I get on it. I defiantly don’t want anything over a 3200, what would be the lowest stall speed I can get away with? I do plan on upgrading my gears in the car in the future, so I would want a converter that would be able to work with that also.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Get Chris at Circle D to spec one out for you. He spec'd a 3400 for my 4l80e conversion, but my car is a weekend warrior with 3.80 gears.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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lowest would be a 2800. any lower than that and it would almost be like stock. i would suggest a 3200 if it's a dd with stock gears. if you plan on a gear change in the future then go with the 3200 for sure. i have a 3600 in my weekend car with 3.73's and personally i think it would be too much for a dd.

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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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That is the same cam I am getting and I have a circle d 3400 stall and I wish I had a 3600 for it. I would get a 3200 at minimum. The higher the stall the faster your car will run with that cam. 4000 stall for best performance.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 09:19 PM
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I have a 2800 custom stall in my 00 TA and it works good with my stock cam. I drive the car to work daily about 60 miles round trip. Im doing my 228r install this week, so if everything goes well Ill report back to your post and let you know the outcome and how it drives with the cam
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by bernarlitt
I have a 2800 custom stall in my 00 TA and it works good with my stock cam. I drive the car to work daily about 60 miles round trip. Im doing my 228r install this week, so if everything goes well Ill report back to your post and let you know the outcome and how it drives with the cam
You should report some times back as well. I am always interested to see what people run with the 228r. I am sure the car will drive great, but you could pick up better times with a higher stall with that cam
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 10:59 PM
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3000-3200 range would be fair
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 11:09 PM
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3200 minimum IMO, very drive-able converter. A Yank SS3200 would be a nice choice.


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That is the same cam I am getting and I have a circle d 3400 stall and I wish I had a 3600 for it. I would get a 3200 at minimum. The higher the stall the faster your car will run with that cam. 4000 stall for best performance.
It will likely go to 3600 with the increase in power from the cam.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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I run a PTC 4000 with my 226 cam.

I recommend a 3600, you will regret not going bigger if you go with something like a 3200. The difference driving is minimal, the difference performance wise is great.
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Old Jun 26, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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just give chris a call at circle d. you can tell him what your goals are and he will set you up with the correct converter for your personal needs.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lemons12
I run a PTC 4000 with my 226 cam.

I recommend a 3600, you will regret not going bigger if you go with something like a 3200. The difference driving is minimal, the difference performance wise is great.
I totally agree! I wish I had gone with at least a 3600
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 01:27 AM
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Well one of the things I am try to figure out is, how much is the rpm difference under normal driving conditions from a 3000 stall to a 3600, if so how much, and would these effect high way driving at all.

Thanks for the replies everyone.
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A simple answer would be not hardly enough to be noticeable. The lighter the throttle the less you would notice it. When you really start leaning into the throttle is when the rpm flair becomes obvious. What I mean is if you are light on the throttle and drive conservatively, you won't know the difference.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 06:07 AM
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He is right on. You wouldn't notice it unless you wanted to.
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Old Jun 27, 2011 | 09:47 PM
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i believe yank, vig and circle d all give one free stall change with a purchase of one of their converters. go with what you think is right for you and if you don't like it, then send it in for a stall change. problem solved.
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Old Jun 28, 2011 | 01:16 AM
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my friend has a yank 3200 with his 224 cam. you will notice that it is slightly looser than stock. i wouldn't go less than this though. he said it still pushes the brakes just a little bit, but within tolerable limits. everyone has a different opinion on "drivability." i wouldn't want any aftermarket stall for a daily driver. i don't even want a catback for a daily driver. other people can tolerate a lot more than i can for longer drives.
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Old Jul 19, 2011 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4
3200 minimum IMO, very drive-able converter. A Yank SS3200 would be a nice choice.




It will likely go to 3600 with the increase in power from the cam.
So your saying if I were to have a 228r cammed car plus my current mods and Chris at Circle D sent me a 3400 stall for my mods than it would probably be like it is now, but since im adding power it will make it a 3600 stall basicly?
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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 12:01 AM
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As torque increases, stall speed increases. You decrease torque, stall speed decreases. A stall is like a math formula, you change one value and the outcome changes. Lots of things weigh in on a stall's speed, vehicle weight, torque, rear end gearing, transmission gearing, powerband etc.
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i dd an FTI 3800 in my built 400 with a 222/226 and 3.73, with no issues at all..

drives like a cvt out of a nissan till i need to use it haha
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Same goes... Add weight to a car it will flash higher, take weight out it will flash lower.
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