Bullitt117

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I'm in the process of removing the 4l60e from my 2000 trans am. I have all the bolts out, I triple checked. the transmission remains stuck. I even tried prying on it through the starter hole. wouldn't budge. anyone dealt with this problem?

another thing, I haven't removed the torque convertor bolts, I was told the convertor would slide off the input shaft.

mjs1012

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take the converter bolts off, itll make it easier. spray some wd40 or something on the dowel pins and just pry and itll come off. wiggle it back and forth to free it up some

cantfind2nd

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transmount and crossmember out? try grabbing the trans by the tail shaft and rock it back and forth hard. should pop off..

cantfind2nd

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side to side

bigantws6

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Wd40 and hit it with rubber malet where it connect with the block

cantfind2nd

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id take convertor bolts off too

mrvedit

And be sure you have the bolt at the 12 O'Clock position out. (Someone missed that one in a similar post this week.)
I recommend putting the bolts near the 3 O'Clock and 9 O'Clock positions back in with 1/2" play; this ensures the trans doesn't drop. The side to side on the tail housing until the dowels release.

therabidweasel

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And when you put it back on, antiseize on the dowels.

Bullitt117

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thanks for all the input! I do have every bolt out. I count 8 in my hand lol. plus I have the engine crossmember lowered so I can clearly see the entire bellhousing. I tried a chisel and hammer to wedge them apart and that didn't work either. maybe pb blaster on the dowel pins??

cantfind2nd

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Put 2 upper bolts half way in and kick the MF .lol

mjs1012

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honestly man, throw on some angry music, get pissed off like you wanna fight the world and shake the thing while yelling. if that method doesnt work then well keep brainstorming

transam69230

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YOU NEED TO TAKE THE CONVERTER BOLTS OUT!!!!!!!! IT IS NOT GOING TO JUST SLIDE RIGHT OFF!

The converter is seated in the trans in the pump and the converter is connected to the flexplate which is bolted to the engine. It is not going to come out unless you:

A. Take the bolts out
B. Spin the converter while pulling the trans to free it from the pump.

mrvedit

I humbly would like to disagree with your conclusion, but not your intention.
There is nothing that directly connects the converter to the pump; it does just slide off. Perhaps there are some converters somewhere that "hook" to the pump, but I have never seen one in various brands of cars I have worked on.

However I would highly recommend always removing the converter bolts before pulling the trans. ESPECIALLY if the trans is hung up on the dowels. Otherwise, if the trans releases at an angle, it could bend the input shaft or damage the converter.

Bullitt117

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I'll try to get the convertor bolts out, I just don't have the right torx bit (t52). I'll have to find one somewhere.

transam69230

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I guess from what I have learned and broke I would never even attempt to take the trans out without removing to torque converter bolts. I guess if it can be done then do it but I personally would never do it that way.

mrvedit

Exactly!

The stock converter bolts can be a bitch to remove.
Search the forum for "converter bolts torx" to get some hints.
Here is one thread:
https://ls1tech.com/forums/florida-m...ter-bolts.html

I'm pretty sure everyone here replaces them with hex bolts.
Personally I just use standard Grade-10 metric fine-thread bolts; it is important to have the correct length. IIRC with the stock flexplate it is only 15mm; it is more with an Aluminum SFI flexplate.

Bacon

Not sure how the auto tranmissions are setup, but on my t-56 there are slots on either side of the trans that allow you to insert a pry bar. Even with pry bars I had to fight to get mine off. Getting angry is a good suggestion - just dont go overboard and F something up. Lots of aluminum down there.

mrvedit

I assume you are referring to holding the flywheel with a prybar. There is an official GM tool for this (or course).
Personally I use a 1/2" 200ft/lb battery impact wrench to remove the torque converter bolts. Alternatively you need an assistant with a 24mm socket on the crankshaft bolt.

9sectruck

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do not pry on the block to remove the trans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just bought a car for 2k because the guy ******* broke the block all the way up pass the dowel pin on the starter side.
I used a 10k ratchet strap to the rear end pops right off

shepss217

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yeah, had the same problem when i installed my converter, you need to support the transmission with something and grab the tail and shake the **** out of it, spraying down around where the tranny meets the block and dowl pins help too, aluminum on aluminum never like each other