Precision Industries/Vigilante
Precision Industries/Vigilante whats everyones take on the Precision Industries/Vigilante converters these days. i know back in the day they where big. are they still good or have they not kept up with the times
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From: Wichita KS / Rancho San Diego
They build a solid converter. In my early days on this board, it was all Yank and Vig, but as time has passed, other players and sponsors have gotten into the act and claimed a following. Yank's halo remains untarnished, but Vig has faded into the twilight.
One reason may be that Vig's stall ratings tend to run about 400rpm higher than Yank. So a Vig 3200 = Yank 3600. Folks who didn't understand this tended to criticize Vig converters for being excessively loose. They may indeed tend to be looser than the super tight Yank SS series, but they're nonetheless a quality converter.
One reason may be that Vig's stall ratings tend to run about 400rpm higher than Yank. So a Vig 3200 = Yank 3600. Folks who didn't understand this tended to criticize Vig converters for being excessively loose. They may indeed tend to be looser than the super tight Yank SS series, but they're nonetheless a quality converter.
They build a solid converter. In my early days on this board, it was all Yank and Vig, but as time has passed, other players and sponsors have gotten into the act and claimed a following. Yank's halo remains untarnished, but Vig has faded into the twilight.
One reason may be that Vig's stall ratings tend to run about 400rpm higher than Yank. So a Vig 3200 = Yank 3600. Folks who didn't understand this tended to criticize Vig converters for being excessively loose. They may indeed tend to be looser than the super tight Yank SS series, but they're nonetheless a quality converter.
One reason may be that Vig's stall ratings tend to run about 400rpm higher than Yank. So a Vig 3200 = Yank 3600. Folks who didn't understand this tended to criticize Vig converters for being excessively loose. They may indeed tend to be looser than the super tight Yank SS series, but they're nonetheless a quality converter.
funny thing about that is i heard that same about FTI. so idk.
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From: Wichita KS / Rancho San Diego
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I love the Vig I say this, a 3200 stall dual disk that you can lock on the top end at around 100 mph will give you 0 anxiety of any thing else converter related, be it on the street or the track for a dual purpose car.
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I specifically wanted a 2800 so it would be nice and tight. Got a package deal from RPM Transmissions on Built 4L60 + 3.42 Rear + Vigilante Converter. After ordering, PI called me, asked me what I wanted and what mods the car had, and I told them everything in detail, that I wanted 2800 stall speed, and that I was concerned about driveability and wanted a tight converter.
What I got was a converter with 3200 stall speed and that was annoyingly loose paired with my new 3.42 rear (coming from stock 2.73 and stock stall).
Got used to it eventually, but never fully satisfied.
Lesson learned. Next C5 build in the future will be 3.73 and a Yank converter.
Ive had a Vig2800 and Vig3200. Currently have a Vig/Circle D hybrid. Vigilante has great customer service with their free 1 restall. I broke a transmission I sent it to them they fixed and restalled it and overnighted it back to me for no cost. Circle D got my Vig3200 which wouldnt lockup any more due to transmission failure again and did a great job and restalled it to ~3600. These 2 companies are top notch!
well if people are reporting there stalling being higher/looser then they ordered wouldnt that be somewhat a problem or something you would want to know when ordering from them?
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Where have you guys ever heard this about FTI? I have an FTI and it is perfectly fine regarding actual stall speed vs advertised stall speed.
Staging Lane
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From: Baltimore, MD
vig stall I've had a vig 3200 stall for well over 8 yrs now with no issues. I run my car down the track from time to time, but mostly on the street. It's pretty much just driven on the weekends, but i'am not easy on it. I just recently installed a D1SC with a front mount, so that will be a real test of the durability. Overall i'am very happy with it and do recommend them.
On The Tree
Joined: May 2013
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From: Newman Lake, WA
I use both Yank and Precision (Vigilante) in my shop and like them both. Precision Industries is in Tennessee, which is a 4-5 day UPS away, while Yank is in Reno, Nevada. With Yank being that much closer, I tend to use more Yank than Precision on the small stuff. But, I use Precision pretty much exclusively on the heavy diesel applications. Their triple disc Dodge Cummins converters (47RE, 48RE) are absolutely TOP SHELF, and they build a hybrid triple disc for the Ford Powerstroke (E4OD, 4R100, 5R110) that you literally can't get anywhere else. They are a 100% custom built converter and they just flat work!
As far as people beating up on converter manufacturers for missing the mark on stall speed, if you understood what a moving target a converter stall speed is, youd cut all of them some slack... Stall speed depends upon so many factors and variables that it amazes me that they can get them as close as they do. A converter that stalls at 3200 behind one engine might stall at 3400 behind another, or 3000 in a different application...and so on. That's why they all offer a free restall if need be after you run the thing.
As I reread this post, it kinda reads like a Precision Industries brochure or something. I have zero affiliation with them, other than spending thousands of dollars a year on their converters. I just appreciate a good company, with a good product, and a good warranty. These things, in combination, are a rare commodity these days...
As far as people beating up on converter manufacturers for missing the mark on stall speed, if you understood what a moving target a converter stall speed is, youd cut all of them some slack... Stall speed depends upon so many factors and variables that it amazes me that they can get them as close as they do. A converter that stalls at 3200 behind one engine might stall at 3400 behind another, or 3000 in a different application...and so on. That's why they all offer a free restall if need be after you run the thing.
As I reread this post, it kinda reads like a Precision Industries brochure or something. I have zero affiliation with them, other than spending thousands of dollars a year on their converters. I just appreciate a good company, with a good product, and a good warranty. These things, in combination, are a rare commodity these days...
They ask you your specs and whats it going in so they get the stall speed right
I agree it will be diff motor to motor but if I tell them whats it going behind it shouldn't be 400rpms off.
Now if someone specs a converter for a 400hp car and then installs it into a 600hp car I would understand the stalll speed being off.
Not saying its true. Just going by that if it is.
I agree it will be diff motor to motor but if I tell them whats it going behind it shouldn't be 400rpms off.
Now if someone specs a converter for a 400hp car and then installs it into a 600hp car I would understand the stalll speed being off.
Not saying its true. Just going by that if it is.