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Old Nov 15, 2015 | 12:19 AM
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Hi guys,

I have a offroad racetruck bought from the US.
I think the gearbox is prepped by TCI, but i have no more information then the stickers on it.
it has done now about 100 miles since new.

if the gearbox is cold its runs quite alright.
soon as the gearbox starts to warm up its getting louder.
at operational temp its 1st gear is quiet over the whole rpm range.
shift to 2nd it sounds like there is a roots blower on the engine from 2000 rpm up.
shift to 3th and it sounds like an angle grinder, i cant hear anything else then the gearbox.
the builder says its cause the intermediate gearbox has straight cut gears.
I don't believe it since 6000 rpm in first is not making the noise as 2000 in 2nd.
The gearbox doesnt slip in any of the gears, fluid looks and smells good.
you guys have some ideas, I will try to measure the pressure of the gearbox this afternoon.

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Old Nov 18, 2015 | 08:16 AM
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you guys have an idea, I measured the pressures, see below.
can there be a cause?

manual spec measured
Neutral, brake applied @1000 rpm 55-70PSI 95PSI
Drive @ idle 60-85 140PSI
Drive 3th, brake applied@1000 60-90 125PSI
Drive 2nd, brake applied@1000 135-160 205PSI
Reverse, brake applied@1000 95-150 175PSI
Drive 1ST, brake applied@1000 90-110 205PSI

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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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straight cut gears should make the most noise in first gear. not so much in second and quite in third because they are turning as a unit. the 60-90 125psi means?
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Old Nov 19, 2015 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by john kilgore
straight cut gears should make the most noise in first gear. not so much in second and quite in third because they are turning as a unit. the 60-90 125psi means?
its all shifted to the left.
Left 60-90 is gm spec, 125 is what i measured.
I found a movie on Youtube where the gearbox makes the same noise.
19 seconds and onwards.

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Old Nov 20, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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l have found that whinning noise might be a stock filter pluged and air going into the pump making noise. use an allison 540 screen and see if the noise goes away. good luck
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Old Nov 21, 2015 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by john kilgore
l have found that whinning noise might be a stock filter pluged and air going into the pump making noise. use an allison 540 screen and see if the noise goes away. good luck
Do you have a GM partnumber of this, Cause the People here in the Dealership dont know the difference between a filter and a sparkplug. They will ask me for a licence plate number which i dont have otherwise. Thanks for the help so far.
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I opened up the sump today, got the filter on order.
found just some small stuff on the magnet.
But i found vibrations marks all on the sump, from the filter.
i assume that the filter is solid against the sump, restricting the oil flow.
Got to fix my rear end first now, since that one is bust.
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thats definitely the pump starving and buy the screen filter
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New style filter installed, now its all good.
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