Torque converter clearance
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Torque converter clearance Hey guys, finished installing my cast iron 6.2 inside my chevy avalanche. I have a question about torque converter clearance. I bought a circle D stall, and from the converter pads to the flexplate, I am able to put a 5/64 drill bit , but not a 1/8. I want to know if that is fine to bolt up for my 6l80e 6 speed trans. 5/64 is .078 inches please get back to me. I dont want to wipe out a thrust bearing.
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Seriously...a similar question was just posted
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...r-spacing.html
Secondly...pick up your phone and call Circle D
I have seen 1/16-3/16 as acceptable. Some places want to see an 1/8 or nothing else.
Just call and get the info from the horses mouth.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...r-spacing.html
Secondly...pick up your phone and call Circle D
I have seen 1/16-3/16 as acceptable. Some places want to see an 1/8 or nothing else.
Just call and get the info from the horses mouth.
I won't speak for Circle D but we normally do .100" as an absolute minimum but prefer 1/8-3/16
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If the clearance is too tight...then this is exactly what will happen. So having it be too tight can easily wear out the trans pump or cause other damage.
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I agreed totally. But after a while of messing with cars/transmissions, you should be able to tell by feel/sight. This may well be ops first go around, so I'm definitely not slamming him, as we all have to start somewhere.
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Seriously...a similar question was just posted
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...r-spacing.html
Secondly...pick up your phone and call Circle D
I have seen 1/16-3/16 as acceptable. Some places want to see an 1/8 or nothing else.
Just call and get the info from the horses mouth.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic...r-spacing.html
Secondly...pick up your phone and call Circle D
I have seen 1/16-3/16 as acceptable. Some places want to see an 1/8 or nothing else.
Just call and get the info from the horses mouth.
They said they usually want 1/8 clearance. I have it seated all the way in and there is no way to get more clearance. So what do I do? And that's crazy someone else just posted this, I've been using the search function and saw the post someone said 1/16 to 3/16, but circle d wanta 1/8 so wtf do I do?
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what do you mean normally do? When its fully seated and I have. 078, how can I make that .100? How can I create more clearance without modifying my thrust bearing, or modifying the pads on the converter? This is getting really frustrating
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Did you rebuild the trans? I've seen the pump gear flipped which will kill clearance.
If stock Engine and trans and you're just changing the converter...then you need to call Circle D again and ask what your options are. If it were mine, I would tell them that their cover needs to be looked at because I don't have clearance and they might machine the pads or the snout.
I know lots of people say they have good luck with Circle D...so I would expect that if you made your situation clear, explained your setup...and told them your issue...they would be willing to get it resolved. Ask them what options you have.
If you just called and asked what they prefer for clearance...they probably just said 1/8 and that was it.
Explain you're having issues and ask for their help to remedy the issue with their product.
If stock Engine and trans and you're just changing the converter...then you need to call Circle D again and ask what your options are. If it were mine, I would tell them that their cover needs to be looked at because I don't have clearance and they might machine the pads or the snout.
I know lots of people say they have good luck with Circle D...so I would expect that if you made your situation clear, explained your setup...and told them your issue...they would be willing to get it resolved. Ask them what options you have.
If you just called and asked what they prefer for clearance...they probably just said 1/8 and that was it.
Explain you're having issues and ask for their help to remedy the issue with their product.
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Did you rebuild the trans? I've seen the pump gear flipped which will kill clearance.
If stock Engine and trans and you're just changing the converter...then you need to call Circle D again and ask what your options are. If it were mine, I would tell them that their cover needs to be looked at because I don't have clearance and they might machine the pads or the snout.
I know lots of people say they have good luck with Circle D...so I would expect that if you made your situation clear, explained your setup...and told them your issue...they would be willing to get it resolved. Ask them what options you have.
If you just called and asked what they prefer for clearance...they probably just said 1/8 and that was it.
Explain you're having issues and ask for their help to remedy the issue with their product.
If stock Engine and trans and you're just changing the converter...then you need to call Circle D again and ask what your options are. If it were mine, I would tell them that their cover needs to be looked at because I don't have clearance and they might machine the pads or the snout.
I know lots of people say they have good luck with Circle D...so I would expect that if you made your situation clear, explained your setup...and told them your issue...they would be willing to get it resolved. Ask them what options you have.
If you just called and asked what they prefer for clearance...they probably just said 1/8 and that was it.
Explain you're having issues and ask for their help to remedy the issue with their product.
having .50 thou taken off the pads by my machinest. I'm at .78 thous now, so .50 off the pads will put me in the money. Thanks so much for showing me the other gentlemens post. I told him what I found and hopefully we can all help each other out. Circle D told me to take off .22 thou, but I'd rather have more clearance than less. I'm aiming for 1/8 that's why I'm gonna do .50
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Even more odd that any machining whatsoever is needed on an already finished and shipped torque converter. I've never even heard of such trickery to install a torque converter.
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this is my second converter I'm dealing with that had the same issue. I'm using a factory flexplate, a factory engine, a factory non rebuilt 60k 6l80e trans. I paid $125 for Saturday delivery on this current converter, and I received it Monday which pissed me off. I'm not trying to play any more waiting games and wait for them to do the same thing my machinest can do here locally. I need my truck on the road
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EVEN MORE ODD, the fact that another gentleman had the same issue and posted about it 2 days before I did.
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How is it non converter build related when I measured from the hub of my Original factory converter to the pads and I got just under 6 and a 1/4 and both the converters they sent me are over 6 and a 1/4. I measured with a straight edge and a level. My factory converter fits no prob. I just happen to have a massive Texas speed cam and need this coonvrrterr or else I'd use my factory converter
not the best picture, but you can see the 2 lines I've marked on the measuring tape, the shorter line was from my factory measurement. Thay difference is what's causing my clearance issue in my opinion
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There should be no trickery to install an expensive converter between a factory setup.
This is why I'm surprised Circle D expects the customer to fix it...to be honest I'm assuming this is the customer's choice to fix it himself rather than ship back. I would think circle D would gladly correct the error.
I've heard almost all good things about Circle D and it's hard to make assumptions in this thread without giving them a chance to respond/share some insight.
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How is it non converter build related when I measured from the hub of my Original factory converter to the pads and I got just under 6 and a 1/4 and both the converters they sent me are over 6 and a 1/4. I measured with a straight edge and a level. My factory converter fits no prob. I just happen to have a massive Texas speed cam and need this coonvrrterr or else I'd use my factory converter
not the best picture, but you can see the 2 lines I've marked on the measuring tape, the shorter line was from my factory measurement. Thay difference is what's causing my clearance issue in my opinion
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This is my whole point. It is likely a setup/machining issue on Circle D's end
There should be no trickery to install an expensive converter between a factory setup.
This is why I'm surprised Circle D expects the customer to fix it...to be honest I'm assuming this is the customer's choice to fix it himself rather than ship back. I would think circle D would gladly correct the error.
I've heard almost all good things about Circle D and it's hard to make assumptions in this thread without giving them a chance to respond/share some insight.
There should be no trickery to install an expensive converter between a factory setup.
This is why I'm surprised Circle D expects the customer to fix it...to be honest I'm assuming this is the customer's choice to fix it himself rather than ship back. I would think circle D would gladly correct the error.
I've heard almost all good things about Circle D and it's hard to make assumptions in this thread without giving them a chance to respond/share some insight.
it is my choice to fix it, only reason I'm on here trying to get help is because I felt I was annoying them when I called and asked for options because I kept dealing with clearance issues. I was pissed off that they kept telling me its my setup, that I should look into buying an expensive tci flexplate. I'm like what the hell bro? They kept telling me nobody ever had issues with too little clearance , yet someone 2 days prior to me posted on the forums about his clearance issues and he also had 5/64 clearance meaning to little.