Tips, Tricks, Mods for the 4L60E OPEN FOR INPUT AND DISCUSSION BY EVERYONE.
Its very easy to make it happen
Just remap shift tables
0411(P01) and later P59 has input signals for use different maps
You can choose between using class2 data from body control module (Body Control Module =BCM make analog signal from buttons transfer to digital commands )
And analog inputs directly to PCM to select shift maps and parameters - Tuner Pro has description what pins must be used to it
Very cool feature to make 2-3 different maps for cruise and race and maybe tow
Just remap shift tables
0411(P01) and later P59 has input signals for use different maps
You can choose between using class2 data from body control module (Body Control Module =BCM make analog signal from buttons transfer to digital commands )
And analog inputs directly to PCM to select shift maps and parameters - Tuner Pro has description what pins must be used to it
Very cool feature to make 2-3 different maps for cruise and race and maybe tow
All these PCM have 3 modes that are easily accessible.
Normal Mode
"cruise" mode
"tow" (if in trucks) or "performance" mode in cars
They each have different shift scheduling tables and different shift firmness/pressure tables
Yes you can make them max out pressure, or shift super late, or whatever you want to do.
Normal Mode
"cruise" mode
"tow" (if in trucks) or "performance" mode in cars
They each have different shift scheduling tables and different shift firmness/pressure tables
Yes you can make them max out pressure, or shift super late, or whatever you want to do.
All these PCM have 3 modes that are easily accessible.
Normal Mode
"cruise" mode
"tow" (if in trucks) or "performance" mode in cars
They each have different shift scheduling tables and different shift firmness/pressure tables
Yes you can make them max out pressure, or shift super late, or whatever you want to do.
Normal Mode
"cruise" mode
"tow" (if in trucks) or "performance" mode in cars
They each have different shift scheduling tables and different shift firmness/pressure tables
Yes you can make them max out pressure, or shift super late, or whatever you want to do.
Yes I am aware and my point is if it has not hardened by the time the first presurized oil hits it then its gone as far as being a sealer . I am just testing various products to see what I find serves this purpose best.
When used as a sealer/retainer in a condition that may or may not have oxygen present . It whatever it may be needs to harden in both conditions.
Of course in a perfect world we would all just use brand new drums and shafts. But personally I have found no reliable source for these . Sonnax uses new drums for the smart drum but prohibitive cost wise for most builds with probably the best overall availabilty but still at times iffy. A chinese company makes a nice one with a larger 3-4 PISTON and while reasonable at 490 dollars last time I checked availability very limited and iffy, But have seen some good test results by others with it.
I am just doing trying different things to see what works best in near all conditions as all conditions are a reality.
I also hear you have a drum also but not heard much about price or availability yet or it may be propreitary to your units ?
When used as a sealer/retainer in a condition that may or may not have oxygen present . It whatever it may be needs to harden in both conditions.
Of course in a perfect world we would all just use brand new drums and shafts. But personally I have found no reliable source for these . Sonnax uses new drums for the smart drum but prohibitive cost wise for most builds with probably the best overall availabilty but still at times iffy. A chinese company makes a nice one with a larger 3-4 PISTON and while reasonable at 490 dollars last time I checked availability very limited and iffy, But have seen some good test results by others with it.
I am just doing trying different things to see what works best in near all conditions as all conditions are a reality.
I also hear you have a drum also but not heard much about price or availability yet or it may be propreitary to your units ?
Anaerobic means once you press the shaft in, it will dry between the shaft and drum, just because it's wet where it's exposed doesn't represent the pressed area, You are the easily offended type it seems.
The Chinese "FI" drum was my design that I suggested they make, but in typical Chinese fashion they made them and sent them to other companies without even giving me the courtesy to test them,
Anaerobic means once you press the shaft in, it will dry between the shaft and drum, just because it's wet where it's exposed doesn't represent the pressed area, You are the easily offended type it seems.
Anaerobic means once you press the shaft in, it will dry between the shaft and drum, just because it's wet where it's exposed doesn't represent the pressed area, You are the easily offended type it seems.
No I suppose I am just polite , In any case I did send a guy to you for a 1200 to 2000 hp 4L80E as while I do the 80E I do not ship them and hes out west .
Interesting on the FI drum I actually learned of it in an EMAIL they sent a couple years ago to me.
And yes while I am not like many THINK all CHINA made stuff is junk , Some I have actually looked at was better made, But I have seen if you send an idea to them well you just gave away your idea.
They make great copys of sonnax pinless accum though I generaly dont use that style anyway they are thicker at bottom that sonnax and playing with a couple on my press found they will take about 40 more PSI before the center breaks though both went to about 350 PSI before breaking with my crude test and the dual OD servo its actually thicker at the piston area (I have seen a few sonnax break here on the larger servo). But have not tested beyond that as they come with wrong material seals and while they will acept the sonnax reseal kit , Time you add that you have spent as much as the sonnax unit.
I will say the END CAPS ARE great for the price just change the orings again WRONG MATERIAL but they are cheap enough. Here again In my bulds I ussually just machine the stock ones for the o-rings as Iike using a thicker one.
And before anyone says anything . NO I dont use the CHINA servo and rarely use te sonnax pinless unless have availability issue with the stock style aluminum.
But have bought some things to look at like the F1 drum which i did use and it worked well or at least has in the unit its in the last couple years as I only had the one. But was nice made.
In anycase no not easily offended just polite its how I am lol . Im not here to argue just share personal experience and knowlege which is what this thread is about with the realization which I hate to use this old expression as I do love my CATS. "More than one way to skin a cat" as they used to say and hope this thread has been and continues to be a place to share 4L60E information , ideas, methods old and new.
PCM itself has 2 pins as input sig for choosing desired mode like tow or sport
It means when you not using these pins -nomal mode
Engaging one pin its second mode (whatever it calls)
Engaging second pin (and releases first) -third mode
But for full manual you need 3 pins -one for choosing manual mode and 2 pins to use taps +-
As far as I know there is no OEM software to use in such mode
Maybe with BCM module(it has plenty input and output pins) it can be commanded via class2 datalink - I dont have such knowledge and experience
I also will be happy to use full manual mode as option
Inside my 6sp firmware I have maps named as manual mode with limits for every gear
For gen3 I dont have such maps and even I command gear to change - actual map preferences instantly will change it back
So we need firmware with manual mode first for gen3
For gen3 I dont have such maps and even I command gear to change - actual map preferences instantly will change it back
So we need firmware with manual mode first for gen3
I read the full thread and have a question. I have both an 01 and 02 tahoe, how do these mods work with the tow/haul mode? Tow haul seams to significantly firm the shifts not just alter shift timing. I don't want to buy franks valve body parts then in tow/haul cause some insane hard shifts or break stuff. I tow, quite a bit. Tahoes are bone stock but have a 6.0 planned for the 01 and am seriously considering buying a transmission from franks as i dont have time to rebuild myself as I'm a homesteader and spring is upon us.
I read the full thread and have a question. I have both an 01 and 02 tahoe, how do these mods work with the tow/haul mode? Tow haul seams to significantly firm the shifts not just alter shift timing. I don't want to buy franks valve body parts then in tow/haul cause some insane hard shifts or break stuff. I tow, quite a bit. Tahoes are bone stock but have a 6.0 planned for the 01 and am seriously considering buying a transmission from franks as i dont have time to rebuild myself as I'm a homesteader and spring is upon us.
But always bear in mind while you dont want slamming shifts. Slding soft shifts also equal heat and wear. Its a trade off and finding a place in the middle.












