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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 07:41 AM
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I've been trying to decide if I want a glide with a 1.8o or a 2.48 400 with a second gear leave option for no prep and back half racing. Im worried the 2.48 will be too much of a hit off the line but maybe the 1.80 would not be enough. The extra shift from the 400 may upset the car on a really bad track. But could et faster if the track comes around. The glide is lighter and simpler, more consistent. Price for either is about the same. Let me know what you think!

98 Camaro 3200lbs with driver
550 wheel on motor and about 470 tq
200-300 spray with controller
3.70 gears (can be changed)
28x10.5 slick
True street class
Peak power at 7k, peak tq at 5k.
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 08:26 AM
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I love seeing someone else building a car for No Prep!

I have the same goal for my build but I went Procharged.

I have a th400 in mine because I still run mine on the street a lot so like that extra gear.
Im not overly worried about the extra shift with hopes that it will et faster and I can keep the car tamed with the shock setup
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 09:00 AM
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For an all out drag car it's hard to beat a glide.
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 09:05 AM
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I'm not sure what no-prep means, but from a builder's perspective this may be useful:

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for no prep i think a 1-2 leave 400 is a more flexible choice. no prep means different things on different tracks and being able to leave in first or second is another tuning tool you will have on top of leave rpm and whatever else you use.
i have a 400 with a ati 1-2 brake and run hard tire. at my local track, orlando speedworld, the no prep events will still pull your shoes off at the 60' so i leave in first but i can also leave off the brake in second on the street by my house and hook.
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Old Jul 26, 2024 | 10:28 AM
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for no prep i think a 1-2 leave 400 is a more flexible choice. no prep means different things on different tracks and being able to leave in first or second is another tuning tool you will have on top of leave rpm and whatever else you use.
i have a 400 with a ati 1-2 brake and run hard tire. at my local track, orlando speedworld, the no prep events will still pull your shoes off at the 60' so i leave in first but i can also leave off the brake in second on the street by my house and hook.
With most of these big no-prep events they all will tack up nice after a few passes. War in the Woods this spring was greasy and loose then after hard tire it started to get sticky off the launch.
I like flexibility wherever I can get it. Especially with so many surfaces and types events there are out there
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we have a run what ya brung class and several cars that are basically pro mods show up
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we have a run what ya brung class and several cars that are basically pro mods show up
Yeah that seems to be common even in small tire you get a few.
Thats why I like Street Car, Hard Tire and even the gangster 26s you are seeing more and more
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Thanks for the advise. I think I am leaning towards a th400. I'll have to call in to see if the builder can make me a forward pattern valve body with a clean neutral. Just preference.
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Thanks for the advise. I think I am leaning towards a th400. I'll have to call in to see if the builder can make me a forward pattern valve body with a clean neutral. Just preference.
I wouldn’t see why they couldn’t. My tranny guy just asks what is it I want and works his magic. I don’t think mine will engage the brake in 2nd so might be coming out this winter to get redone
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The valve body has to be set up for 2nd gear leave, I don’t think there are that many that can do it.
I use an Ati wicked quick that works in first or second.
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Originally Posted by TrendSetter
The valve body has to be set up for 2nd gear leave, I don’t think there are that many that can do it.
I use an Ati wicked quick that works in first or second.
Extreme automatics has one as well. But, I think I have settled on what trans I will be going with now. Any opinions on converter? I make peak torque at about 5000 and hp at 7000 so i was thinking something like a 9.5" 4400 stall from circle D. Possible even an 8".
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Extreme automatics has one as well. But, I think I have settled on what trans I will be going with now. Any opinions on converter? I make peak torque at about 5000 and hp at 7000 so i was thinking something like a 9.5" 4400 stall from circle D. Possible even an 8".
I have a 4000 stall but am not overly happy with it. It pulled torque to about the same and power tailed off around 6600. But we changed up cam and such so I expect it to change

I’m planning on calling circle d, ati, or freak show to have them custom build one.
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Don't forget about FTI
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Gotta spend the money on a good converter. I use FTI because they are local and have one of their pro mod 10” I think. It flashes just past 5000 but I see very little slip on the dyno with it. It was less than 3% until I made almost 800whp then it started going up but not a whole lot.
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Old Jul 28, 2024 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bbond105
Don't forget about FTI
Called them as well. Seems like everyone has their own opinion on what works but they seem to be drastically different. I have been recommended an 8" thats rated to flash to 5000, a 9.5" rated at 3800...so right now I am trying to read up as much as I can about converters so I can make a more educated decision.
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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Called them as well. Seems like everyone has their own opinion on what works but they seem to be drastically different. I have been recommended an 8" thats rated to flash to 5000, a 9.5" rated at 3800...so right now I am trying to read up as much as I can about converters so I can make a more educated decision.
What was off about our recommendation that has you concerned? perhaps one of my guys misunderstand how the car is being used or we didn't explain our decision on the converter well enough?

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Originally Posted by FTICONVERTERS
What was off about our recommendation that has you concerned? perhaps one of my guys misunderstand how the car is being used or we didn't explain our decision on the converter well enough?

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Hey Dalton, nothing was off, but many shops that I have called had recommended converters that were completely different. Shopping around. Getting many different recommendations made me unsure about what I wanted to do. So, I had to read up quite a bit to learn about what I am looking for. I actually called in today again and went back over my combo and placed an order.

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Originally Posted by Bspeck82
Hey guys,

I've been trying to decide if I want a glide with a 1.8o or a 2.48 400 with a second gear leave option for no prep and back half racing. Im worried the 2.48 will be too much of a hit off the line but maybe the 1.80 would not be enough. The extra shift from the 400 may upset the car on a really bad track. But could et faster if the track comes around. The glide is lighter and simpler, more consistent. Price for either is about the same. Let me know what you think!

98 Camaro 3200lbs with driver
550 wheel on motor and about 470 tq
200-300 spray with controller
3.70 gears (can be changed)
28x10.5 slick
True street class
Peak power at 7k, peak tq at 5k.
How are you guys getting so light
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Originally Posted by fastlt1
How are you guys getting so light
Hardtop car. Almost all the money mods to take out weight. 300lbs isn't too hard to take out.
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