What's an aftermarket stall like?
08-08-2004, 01:12 AM
#22
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Originally Posted by james562
How do you decide how high of a converter to use and how do you match a stall to a cam
~3200 stall being the minimum (Vig3200 still a good choice though, it is underated)
I don't know about matching to a cam, most people get converters before cams for good reason.
How you pick a cam and how you pick a converter kind of have the same criteria. The bigger the converter the worse it is for street driving (for most ppl), but hte better the gains are especially at the track. The same is true of cams, the bigger they are the better they perform, esp at track, but they are more of a hastle on the street. I think you just put a moderate size cam with moderate stall, and huge cam with huge stall. The bigger the cam is the higher it's RPM range where it makes it's best power, typically, and you want a higher stall to make full use of it
08-08-2004, 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by james562
Anything else needed when installing a higher than stock stall any adjusting or tuning
Shift kit. Helps firm up the shifts, which would get even looser with converter. Also suppose to help extend transmission life through less slippage. The TransGo is very popular, runs around $110. A basic/simple tune of shift points is recommended and sometimes requied. I got mine at LS1 Speed, was suppose to be $150 based on website, they said they'd charge me $100 and we had it all figured out (i did all my converter stuff thorugh them, install and all) and when I got the bill it was not on the list.
A program like LS1 edit could do that, and I htink even a hypertech or HPTuners would work as well.
08-08-2004, 09:24 AM
#24
Originally Posted by ironworker
WOW, Excellent explanation of a torque converter James 
maybe that should be stickied to the top!! One thing you might want to keep in mind Derek is that just as your rear gear will effect how a converter drives so will the weight of the vehicle. I see in your sig that you have a truck correct? I dont know what most the truck guys run but you may want to go with a bit lower stall than most the car guys. I would guess either a tci3000 or a vig2800 might be good choices. The weight of your truck will cause the converter to "stall" a bit higher (feel "looser").
maybe that should be stickied to the top!! One thing you might want to keep in mind Derek is that just as your rear gear will effect how a converter drives so will the weight of the vehicle. I see in your sig that you have a truck correct? I dont know what most the truck guys run but you may want to go with a bit lower stall than most the car guys. I would guess either a tci3000 or a vig2800 might be good choices. The weight of your truck will cause the converter to "stall" a bit higher (feel "looser").I totally agree.
The weight makes a difference.
08-09-2004, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by james562
thanks for the info blkz28spt also what would you suggest for a stall to use with a TSP 231/237 .598/.595 112+2
I just can't stand to wait that long
08-09-2004, 04:34 AM
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I'll be one to go against the grain here. When used for city traffic, think of stall as lag. I went from stock (1800) to Vig3000 in a C5 Vette. I picked a 3000 stall because it was recommended, and that's the rpm where my torque curve starts. Turns out that the Vig is 400rpm higher stall than other brands. When I first drove it, it was more stall than I expected. I never got used to it like everyone said I would. I like a responsive car, and the high stall made it feel unresponsive in traffic. When I take it out to a country road, it only spends a half second below stall, but I miss blipping the throttle and having the car react.
