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Old Jun 13, 2010 | 04:52 PM
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Does anyone have the pin locations on the pcm that the trans harness wires go into. Ive been looking at the wiring diagrams and pinouts for the pcm and they don't match. So I am not sure which diagram to trust.

98 ls1.
98 wiring is different from 99-02 wiring

Search for 1998 ls1 pinout- someone by the name of boggs made it up
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Old Jul 16, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Arc00TA
There is some good info in here, is anyone interested in high-res pics of the A4 to M6 swap? I will be doing my 4th one this weekend and can document the progress and add it to this thread so maybe that would help some people out.
I would, any chance you know where I can get some parts to do the swap?
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 10:47 PM
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About to swap in a a4 inmy car which is currently a m6. I am going to use a b&m hammer shifter, how do I go about wiring up my backup lights and pnp switch? Do I use the switchs that came with the shifter or do I need to get some factory connectors?
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Old Dec 5, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sheikss
About to swap in a a4 inmy car which is currently a m6. I am going to use a b&m hammer shifter, how do I go about wiring up my backup lights and pnp switch? Do I use the switchs that came with the shifter or do I need to get some factory connectors?
Use the switches that come with the shifter.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Just wire them up like the directions says then?
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Oh, thanks for the help too.
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Old Dec 6, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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The switch on the left is the stock switch.
The dark green and purple wires are the neutral safety.
The light green and brown are for the reverse lights.
IIRC.

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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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stupid question. is there a way to turn a 4l65e to a none electric tranny? like a 700r4. if so , what happens to the od
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Old Dec 9, 2010 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by nexstar7
stupid question. is there a way to turn a 4l65e to a none electric tranny? like a 700r4. if so , what happens to the od
Yes, ask this in the automatic transmission forum as a new post. This is an M6 to A4 and A4 to M6 conversion thread. It's not refering to converting a automatically shifted automatic to a manually shifted automatic.
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Old Feb 13, 2011 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Jays_SSZ28
The switch on the left is the stock switch.
The dark green and purple wires are the neutral safety.
The light green and brown are for the reverse lights.
IIRC.

I just got my M6 to A4 Swap done using the A4 engine harness into the M6 interior wiring and just wanted to put all this info together and corrected.
The only correction is the Light green wire from the PNP switch does not go to ground. It goes to the same color light green wire on the C220 (white) plug.
Also the org/blk wire needs to move from H to F. H is where the light green wire connects to the reverse light bulbs. Corrected info is below.
Note: I decided not to hook up the shiftlock so I cannot confirm this. If you grounded the light green wire you would have blown the Fuse Turn SIG/BU Fuse.
As you can see the plugs are wired a little different they are labled as follows

factory M6 side..................factory A4 side
A:tan----------A:tan
B:grey---------B:empty I think grey was for the skip shift
C:pink---------C:pink
D:purple-------D:purple
E:blk/wht------E:blk/wht
F:org/blk-------F:empty needed to move H up here
G:brown-------G:empty is for the back up lights
H:green--------H:org/blk is for for reverse lights
J:ylw/blk-------J:ylw/blk
K:grn/wht------K:grn/wht

Wiring the shiftlock control and PNP switch You are going to need to run a total of 8 wires for the 2 switches, 6 for the PNP and 2 for the shiftlock. The connector pigtails you bought from the dealer for an exceptionally high price should be labeled A-F on the PNP and A-B on the shiftlock the wires go to the following places
PNP switch:
A. Shift Lock control circuit - Black/white wire from shiftlock control solenoid (Connector C200, Pin E)
B. PCM - Orange/Black wire from the white connector (Connector C220, pin F)on the end of the int harness (the one that is inside the car on the passenger side under the kick panel)
C. Back up Lights - Brown wire, Same connector as above (Connector C220, Pin G)
D. Switched Power for reverse lights - Light green wire in Connector C220.
E. Start circuit - Clutch override switch (on the pedal), Purple/white wire
F. Start Circuit - Clutch Override switch (on the pedal), Dark green wire
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Old Apr 28, 2011 | 06:04 PM
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What is the thread on gear selector shaft of 4L80E (2WD version)?
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Old Apr 29, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Anyone knows what the thread on the gear change shaft is?
Attached Thumbnails M6 to A4 and A4 to M6 Conversion info-img_0936sm.jpg  

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Old May 5, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Alright I'm starting to buy parts to swap my car back to an A4. My question is does lsxtune.com have a wiring harness to make a 4l60 work with an M6 wiring harness? Or would I be better off finding a A4 harness since my car is a 98?
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Old May 5, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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Speartech sells an add on harness fr the pcm
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Old May 9, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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^Thanks for the info. Another quick question, can a 4l80 be controlled by a 98 f-body pcm?
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Old May 14, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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Does anyone know where to buy spare pins for PCM connector? I need some 15-16 pins (or pins with wires) to complete the wiring. I wouldn't want to buythe whole harness...
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:48 PM
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Anyone?

Also, when I modify M6 crossmember for 4L80 swap (cut and elongate it), how do I know the height tranny tail needs to be at? Or do I just weld crossmember so it's in the same vertical position as it was with T56? Basically, just make it longer, but not move tranny mount up or down?
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Old May 15, 2011 | 07:10 PM
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I got bmr crossmember to relocate torque arm. I got harness but forget off who. You can get pins off lsxtune.com.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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Which plug is correct for VSS sensor? These 2 look a bit different
http://www.lsxtune.com/shop/product_...roducts_id/875
http://www.lsxtune.com/shop/product_...roducts_id/409
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Old May 17, 2011 | 05:57 AM
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[QUOTE=Vetal;14917067]Anyone?

Also, when I modify M6 crossmember for 4L80 swap (cut and elongate it), how do I know the height tranny tail needs to be at? Or do I just weld crossmember so it's in the same vertical position as it was with T56? Basically, just make it longer, but not move tranny mount up or down?


[/I made mine 2 3/8" higher than the stock T56 mount. I measured the centerline of the output shaft before and after to get that measurement.
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