View Poll Results: Is a 3500 stall to much for my car?
Yes
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No
15
51.72%
Go bigger!
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Which Stall Is Right For ME?
#21
Originally Posted by PewterY2KZ28
I'd line this "pansy 3500" against that 4000 of yours any day
Hope this helps...... Jusy my .02 FWIW
Hope this helps...... Jusy my .02 FWIW
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Originally Posted by 94form2000z
....With traction....
<----- 94form2000z trying to launch on the street
BTW: I'd still put my money on you and hope that you have good throttle control
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
Key words. I dont think you can find traction with a 4000 stall converter and big cam on the street very easily.
<----- 94form2000z trying to launch on the street
BTW: I'd still put my money on you and hope that you have good throttle control
<----- 94form2000z trying to launch on the street
BTW: I'd still put my money on you and hope that you have good throttle control
You'd be surprised.
E/T Streets actually grab the pavement quite well When it is dry.
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LOL I do remember racing this vette from a take off. I was on Street tires. Hit it hard spun. Eased into it and about half throttle spun. Finally grabbed and floored it, Got side ways All along staying bumper to bumper with him. He was a m6 as well.
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I have a Yank 2800 and I really want a 3600 or a 3800 stall. You will definitely need a trans cooler for the new stall. I think for the mods that you have a 3600 stall will be a very noticeable difference. Good luck.
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If its for the street 3500 is great. But if i went to the track every weekend i would go 4000k or more. I hit the track 0-1 times a season. I love my tci for everyday use but if your raceing every weekend go bigger now or you will go bigger later.
#28
Originally Posted by 98SS Blackattack
but if your raceing every weekend go bigger now or you will go bigger later.
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I've got a daily driver with a lid, cutout, free mods, and some suspension work, and I'm running a TCI 3800, and it's great. Definately not too much. I could probably go with a 4000 and still be happy. I drive around D.C., so there's plenty of traffic, and it's not bad at all. I say go with a 3800
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1 vote for 3500 stall because of your 3.73 gears
I just got a TCI SSF 3500 installed 1 week ago.
So I don't have a lot of time with this converter, keep that in mind.
I was debating over the SF3000 or SSF3500.
I went with the rule of get 1 bigger than you thought.
I'm conservative anyways. I was looking for "like" stock
driving. I was scared of looseness because I do
some 35-45 driving most of the time.
I watched the video that "samz28" made and I thought
that was "too loose".
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/179872-tci-ssf-3500-40-meg-video-city-driving-promised.html
The first day, I thought it was too loose.
Before I got it, I drove the stock TC around at 2000-2500
and really liked it. I would easily pull from traffic, but
I wouldn't say I was driving "spirited", just using my car.
I wasn't weaving in and out of traffic or anything like that.
I think I will start to get used to it, but right now
since this is a daily driver and never see the track
I'm thinking I should have stayed with the 3000 stall.
In my opinion a 3000 stall is what you want if
you only want to put up with minimal slipping.
You will not be close to stock characteristics, but
I think it would suit you if you had 3.23.
With the 3.73 I think the 3500 will be fine if
you are conservative. If I had 3.73, I would
go with SSF3500 myself...but remember I've only
had it a week.
Now with the TCI, I drive 2000-2200 and traffic pulls
away from me. I have loud exhaust and want to
"try" and get some good MPG, so I am going to stay driving
the same way, 2000-2200. Even if I go to 2500-2800
I just keep up with traffic, but my car is LOUD anyways
so I try to keep a low profile. I'm a little nervous whenever
a cop is around at 2000-2200.
I would say if I had 3.73 gears, this would "probably" drive
close to stock. This is just my opinion, I have no proof of that.
With 3.73, I would say get a SSF3500 or a Yank SS3600/3800.
My best suggestion is to see if you can drive someone's
car that has a stall. I wish I would have asked around
some before purchasing mine.
I "feel" like this converter is less efficient than
the stock one above 3500. I have no proof, only the
butt-o-meter. The stock converter, in a stock car, seemed
to have a second burst of energy at 4000RPM when WOT.
This may have just been the characteristics of the motor
though, I'm not sure.
The SSF3500 does not. It just pulls the same "strength"
the whole time from 3500 +.
When I am driving at a 20MPH constant speed, I can not
just floor it, I have to ease into it quickly and still leave
a 20ft patch of rubber. If I floor it, I would probably
just spin out. From 30MPH, I can floor it
and only leave about 5feet of rubber. From a 40MPH
I can floor it and dead hook. All on Pirelli Pzeros, they
are stickier than stock but not as sticky as a drag radial.
I recommend the SSF3500 with your 3.73 gears for street.
For strip, you won't be able to hook with just DR.
The SSF3500 hits the tires harder than stock, so if you
are dead hooking right now, you will have to modify
your launch technique to get traction at the track.
Good luck.
So I don't have a lot of time with this converter, keep that in mind.
I was debating over the SF3000 or SSF3500.
I went with the rule of get 1 bigger than you thought.
I'm conservative anyways. I was looking for "like" stock
driving. I was scared of looseness because I do
some 35-45 driving most of the time.
I watched the video that "samz28" made and I thought
that was "too loose".
https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/179872-tci-ssf-3500-40-meg-video-city-driving-promised.html
The first day, I thought it was too loose.
Before I got it, I drove the stock TC around at 2000-2500
and really liked it. I would easily pull from traffic, but
I wouldn't say I was driving "spirited", just using my car.
I wasn't weaving in and out of traffic or anything like that.
I think I will start to get used to it, but right now
since this is a daily driver and never see the track
I'm thinking I should have stayed with the 3000 stall.
In my opinion a 3000 stall is what you want if
you only want to put up with minimal slipping.
You will not be close to stock characteristics, but
I think it would suit you if you had 3.23.
With the 3.73 I think the 3500 will be fine if
you are conservative. If I had 3.73, I would
go with SSF3500 myself...but remember I've only
had it a week.
Now with the TCI, I drive 2000-2200 and traffic pulls
away from me. I have loud exhaust and want to
"try" and get some good MPG, so I am going to stay driving
the same way, 2000-2200. Even if I go to 2500-2800
I just keep up with traffic, but my car is LOUD anyways
so I try to keep a low profile. I'm a little nervous whenever
a cop is around at 2000-2200.
I would say if I had 3.73 gears, this would "probably" drive
close to stock. This is just my opinion, I have no proof of that.
With 3.73, I would say get a SSF3500 or a Yank SS3600/3800.
My best suggestion is to see if you can drive someone's
car that has a stall. I wish I would have asked around
some before purchasing mine.
I "feel" like this converter is less efficient than
the stock one above 3500. I have no proof, only the
butt-o-meter. The stock converter, in a stock car, seemed
to have a second burst of energy at 4000RPM when WOT.
This may have just been the characteristics of the motor
though, I'm not sure.
The SSF3500 does not. It just pulls the same "strength"
the whole time from 3500 +.
When I am driving at a 20MPH constant speed, I can not
just floor it, I have to ease into it quickly and still leave
a 20ft patch of rubber. If I floor it, I would probably
just spin out. From 30MPH, I can floor it
and only leave about 5feet of rubber. From a 40MPH
I can floor it and dead hook. All on Pirelli Pzeros, they
are stickier than stock but not as sticky as a drag radial.
I recommend the SSF3500 with your 3.73 gears for street.
For strip, you won't be able to hook with just DR.
The SSF3500 hits the tires harder than stock, so if you
are dead hooking right now, you will have to modify
your launch technique to get traction at the track.
Good luck.
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Great points OneBadWedge.
I am happy with my Vig 3200. (Vigilantes are underrated and mine stalls about 3500)
Main purpose of a stall is to get you in the high torque range at launch. Most LS1's make 90% of their torque by 3500 RPM, going higher (4400) may not reduce your ET much (any) without a lot more mods.
You definately need a trans cooler with a converter.
As for daily driving, people's preferences vary. The Vig is still very drivable. A friends Yank 3600 is also very drivable. I have ridden in a car with a 4400 and I know it's too much for my comfort.
Vigilantes are not on your list, if I were buying another I would consider Yank and Vigs.
I am happy with my Vig 3200. (Vigilantes are underrated and mine stalls about 3500)
Main purpose of a stall is to get you in the high torque range at launch. Most LS1's make 90% of their torque by 3500 RPM, going higher (4400) may not reduce your ET much (any) without a lot more mods.
You definately need a trans cooler with a converter.
As for daily driving, people's preferences vary. The Vig is still very drivable. A friends Yank 3600 is also very drivable. I have ridden in a car with a 4400 and I know it's too much for my comfort.
Vigilantes are not on your list, if I were buying another I would consider Yank and Vigs.