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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 05:38 PM
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Should I consider a higher stall torque converter for a 2002 Z28 that's a daily driver?

If so, which one? Would I need to re-program the shift points? Would I need a tranny fluid cooler? Would I need suspension mods, and if so, what?

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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 05:48 PM
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sure why not. do you drag race it? it will help emmensly for that. either the Vigilante 3200 or the Yank ST3500 are the top two sales-wise for daily driver cars it seems like. There are plenty of other options though. All depends on what you want to do with the car. A tranny cooler is a wise investment no matter what you are going to do. Don't need suspension mods, but if you want to hook at the track, you'll need good tires(drag radials, or e.t. streets) Subframe connectors are a great mod as well. Don't have to reprogrma shift points, but if you get a Hypertech, adjusting the shift points will help a bit with your times. good luck

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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 05:49 PM
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Yank Super Thruster - 3500

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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 07:13 PM
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with 3.23s the Yank SuperThruster 3300 or TT3000 3.0 STR would be good choices along with some sticky tires. For the tighter/more stock like feel, the TT3000 3.0 STR is your best choice. For more performance, a ST 3300 or 3500 stall will do the trick. Look at the Yank FAQs and converter info for more deatails.
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Get those SFCs first. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> The converter is mod #2.
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Old Dec 23, 2001 | 07:48 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Ragtop 99:
<strong>with 3.23s the Yank SuperThruster 3300 or TT3000 3.0 STR would be good choices along with some sticky tires. For the tighter/more stock like feel, the TT3000 3.0 STR is your best choice. For more performance, a ST 3300 or 3500 stall will do the trick. Look at the Yank FAQs and converter info for more deatails.
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Get those SFCs first. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> The converter is mod #2.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I've got a 2.73 rear end. When I bought the car I didn't even know it was an issue. Will that change your choice?

Concerning SFC's -- which? Kenny Barron DD, BMR, or other?

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My mistyping, I meant to say with 2.73s those are my choices. With 3.23s, I generally don't recommend the TT3000 3.0 unless you will definitely be using nittos.

You can still go plenty fast with the 2.73 gears and enjoy low highway rpms.
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Old Dec 24, 2001 | 10:12 AM
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With 2.73 gears and daily driver status I would second the vote on looking at the TT series of converters from Yank (I wouldn't go over 3,000 stall) or a Vigilante "2800" stall (in quotes because it actually stalls higher on an LS1 F-bod).

IMHO a 3500 stall (ST, TT, SY whatever flavor) with 2.73 gears is going to feel loose on the street. To some that doesn't matter because the WOT outways any disadvantages in part-throttle driving to them. <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">
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I ran a tp4400 stall convertor in my 01' daily driver. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> It's all about how you drive the car daily that decides what convertor you pick. If you don't race to much yet want a lil umf from the convertor when needed go with the convertors listed above. Myself; I drag race and street race daily so the 4400 stall was perfect. Nothing like rolling from a stop light at 3000 rpm's in an auto. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">


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Old Dec 24, 2001 | 07:39 PM
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So a ST 3500 would be good for my daily driver/drag racer? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by Orange Krush:
<strong>So a ST 3500 would be good for my daily driver/drag racer? <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>


#6 on the bolt on list is a ST-3700. (11SECSS). His car drives like stock on the street, and ran a 11.60@118 in the quarter on a stock motor!
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In terms of what your looking for I would definitely have to recommend the Vigilante 2800. To me, there is not a better converter for a daily driven street car than this one, especially since you have 2.73 gears. It won't be too loose but will give you a very good performance gain(about 5 tenths with Nitto DR's). And remember, it actually stalls at 3200 rpm and not 2800 rpm.

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Old Dec 25, 2001 | 04:16 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by 2000LS1Z28:
<strong>In terms of what your looking for I would definitely have to recommend the Vigilante 2800. To me, there is not a better converter for a daily driven street car than this one, especially since you have 2.73 gears. It won't be too loose but will give you a very good performance gain(about 5 tenths with Nitto DR's). And remember, it actually stalls at 3200 rpm and not 2800 rpm.

Mike</strong><hr></blockquote>

What about the Yank Stealth 2600? The ads say it looks exactly like stock from the outside.

You mention Nittos. I guess it's the case that I'll have to change tires, and possibly add some suspension mods, right? It's possible to spin the tires (16X8's) off the line on all but the best surfaces with the stock converter. With a new converter, spinning out will be a problem, right?
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Old Dec 25, 2001 | 04:20 PM
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Traction will be a problem with any higher stall converter. A 2600 stall converter will not make you happy as it is just not enough.
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Old Dec 25, 2001 | 04:30 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Dave Jones:
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What about the Yank Stealth 2600? The ads say it looks exactly like stock from the outside.

You mention Nittos. I guess it's the case that I'll have to change tires, and possibly add some suspension mods, right? It's possible to spin the tires (16X8's) off the line on all but the best surfaces with the stock converter. With a new converter, spinning out will be a problem, right?</strong><hr></blockquote>

If your thinking about the Yank Stealth 2600 I wouldn't even bother getting rid of the stock converter. There will not be much of a difference between the two and the cost of everything will not justify the gains nor make you happy. Basically, it sounds like anything in the 3000-3200 range would be perfect for you. As for traction, you will need Nitto DR's with the Vigilante 2800 or your car will never hook up off the line on street tires. But like I said, not a better converter for the money out there in terms of mostly street use. Get a tranny cooler too and you will be in great shape. Just make sure it is installed right.

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Old Dec 25, 2001 | 04:31 PM
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Oh and no, you will not need suspension mods with the Vigilante 2800. As soon as you learn how to launch with it everything will be fine.

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Old Dec 25, 2001 | 05:01 PM
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Thanks everyone! Okay, you convinced me. It sounds like the Vigilante 2800 with some sticky tires is the way to go. I imagine it will be a while before I make the change. The next thing I'm going to do is install SFC's. STB's helped with the flexing problem, but it still shimmies some when I hit bumps. I've about decided on the Double Diamonds, but that's for another thread.

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Dave:

None of the converters discussed require suspension mods. Good tires will be a help, but with 2.73 gears you can step into the launch with normal street tires, although the really RSAs suck.
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 11:04 AM
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Dave....I've got 2:73 gears in my bird. I also got a ST3500. Very streetable and kicks *** at the track.
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Yep, I went 11.95 with a completely stock suspension a TP-4400 and ET Streets <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> Then 11.84 with the UT-4600.

I daily drive my car 30 miles a day.
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Old Dec 26, 2001 | 02:03 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Ragtop 99:
<strong>Dave:

None of the converters discussed require suspension mods. Good tires will be a help, but with 2.73 gears you can step into the launch with normal street tires, although the really RSAs suck.</strong><hr></blockquote>

What's an RSA?
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