Does anyone lock their converter at the track?
04-21-2006, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
Would unlocking it through the shifts have helped?
Locking the converter resulted in the hardest most violent shifts you can imagine.
Picture the impact of a transbrake going from one gear to the next.
For added fun I used to drive around town with converter locked through all gears, and could practically idle up hills and be the king of low rpm bog. I am not kidding, it was like driving a stick car with the trans locked all the time. The shifts were hard! even at 10% throttle. You guys have to try it.
.29 seconds and 3.5+ mph is hard to argue with. the 60 also improved as i said by .02 to .03.
04-22-2006, 01:05 AM
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But at a cost to reliability...that's the problem.
What I meant was, unlocking it through shifts to prevent the failure you experienced. It has to be extremely hard on it to change gears like that.
What I meant was, unlocking it through shifts to prevent the failure you experienced. It has to be extremely hard on it to change gears like that.
04-22-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
But at a cost to reliability...that's the problem.
What I meant was, unlocking it through shifts to prevent the failure you experienced. It has to be extremely hard on it to change gears like that.
What I meant was, unlocking it through shifts to prevent the failure you experienced. It has to be extremely hard on it to change gears like that.
You only live once and my combo was about to be retired anyways. 6 years and 500+ full passes on it (track and steet) not to mention endless bursts and hard chirps.
Try it once get your "golden timeslip" laminate it, blow it up, or just plain old brag!
04-23-2006, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
For a 98-02 f-body 4L60e with stock tuning, doesn't lock-up occur at 38mph?
04-23-2006, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by qwiktim
Your torque converter will not, under any circumstances, lock in first gear........no matter what kind of switch you dream up.
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04-23-2006, 07:22 PM
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You have no idea what you are talking about, or who you are talking to.
Grounding the ALDL on your 700R4, as well as the 2004R will not lock up in 1st gear under any circumstances. Do your homework before you start talking about things you don't know.
You are making a complete fool of yourself, in this post as well as your others....... looks like you are on your way to being banned from all of your other rants and useless posts.......
I posted this topic to try and obtain useful, factual information...... please take your useless jiberish elsewhere and leave my topic alone.
Grounding the ALDL on your 700R4, as well as the 2004R will not lock up in 1st gear under any circumstances. Do your homework before you start talking about things you don't know.
You are making a complete fool of yourself, in this post as well as your others....... looks like you are on your way to being banned from all of your other rants and useless posts.......
I posted this topic to try and obtain useful, factual information...... please take your useless jiberish elsewhere and leave my topic alone.
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04-23-2006, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
Do you think or know? I'm hoping someone can verify.
04-23-2006, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackHawk T/A
No, the converter does not lock at WOT at any time unless someone installs a manual switch to force it.
Yeah thats right ME!
I locked my converter in first and Was told for years by my buddy who owns a Buick GN to do so.
Qwik- last time i checked you were a ford guy. So how does that pertain to the 700r4. Unless my car was a freak it can be and has been done. I have timeslips to prove it.
04-23-2006, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by qwiktim
You have no idea what you are talking about, or who you are talking to.
PS- You seem very obsessed with rainbows and talking about "gay this" and "gay that" in your posts (on this topic as well as others)......... makes one wonder.
I posted this topic to try and obtain useful, factual information...... please take your useless jiberish elsewhere and leave my topic alone.
PS- You seem very obsessed with rainbows and talking about "gay this" and "gay that" in your posts (on this topic as well as others)......... makes one wonder.
I posted this topic to try and obtain useful, factual information...... please take your useless jiberish elsewhere and leave my topic alone.
or you will end up on my permanent signature instead of javaradd 
04-24-2006, 07:31 AM
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That's what we are here to discuss, on the older 700R4 (Camaro, ect) and 2004R (Buick GN) you could simply wire a simple STSP switch from the top left pin on the ALDL (ground) to the top right pin (TCC) and when you flip your switch to ground the converter it would lock when hitting second gear and stay locked manually through third and OD as well.
With those trannys, you can come to a stop, flip the switch, take off, and as soon as it shifted second gear it will lock up............ This is the idea we are discussing on the 4L60E, but it doesn't sound like the transmission can apply enough pressure on the clutch to fully lock under WOT........ maybe, maybe not.
Regardless, with the 4L60E you would have to wire a switch directly to a TCC pin on the PCM, not being able to do a simple switch like on the older trannys through the ALDL. This would probably set a code and trip the SES light to........ again, why we are here discussing this.
And we are talking about WOT lockup, not part throttle, just to be clear.
With those trannys, you can come to a stop, flip the switch, take off, and as soon as it shifted second gear it will lock up............ This is the idea we are discussing on the 4L60E, but it doesn't sound like the transmission can apply enough pressure on the clutch to fully lock under WOT........ maybe, maybe not.
Regardless, with the 4L60E you would have to wire a switch directly to a TCC pin on the PCM, not being able to do a simple switch like on the older trannys through the ALDL. This would probably set a code and trip the SES light to........ again, why we are here discussing this.
And we are talking about WOT lockup, not part throttle, just to be clear.
Last edited by qwiktim; 04-24-2006 at 08:07 AM.
04-24-2006, 01:11 PM
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my 4l60e always locked in 3rd...at WOT...110mph to be exact...just past the 1/8....just enabled lock up in the tcc table....i'd gain 3-4 mph...dunno about et
it will lock up in 1st as well as i have done it manually with hptuners....forgot to unlock it and it stalled out at the light and bucked hard of course.
you can do all this in software...the tables are there....i had a multi disc converter that was made to be locked at wot.
it will lock up in 1st as well as i have done it manually with hptuners....forgot to unlock it and it stalled out at the light and bucked hard of course.
you can do all this in software...the tables are there....i had a multi disc converter that was made to be locked at wot.