Vigilante or Fuddle?
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Originally Posted by darrensls1
Bottom line is TCI, Midwest & Fuddle all make great converters that can drop a stock LS1s ET by half a second. But Yank makes thiers to drop that same half a second (if not a tenth more) while eating less HP thus allowing your trap speed to be higher.
Originally Posted by DarrenLS1
Bottom line is TCI, Midwest & Fuddle all make great converters that can drop a stock LS1s ET by half a second. But Yank makes thiers to drop that same half a second (if not a tenth more) while eating less HP thus allowing your trap speed to be higher.
...how is this done, and why aren't the other companies doing this?
Originally Posted by Sport Side
...how is this done, and why aren't the other companies doing this?
Originally Posted by MNR-0
21 blade stators Yank uses arent exclusive or new. Any converter company can use them. They aren't exactly OEM.
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Fuddle will build one for you on request. Any converter manufacturer will if you specifically ask for it. The only reason I can think of why its not actively promoted is that from my observations and research the 21 blade stator does not hit as hard as the 18 blade at the launch. The 21 blade, however, is better at the very top end for rated stall RPM. This is from actual real world track logs and discussions with converter builders.
Ever heard quotes from owners Vigs and Fuddles hit harder than Yanks?
21 blade stator is from the GM Minivan. Its NOT a unique design exclusive to any one company, though they may market its use as being exclusive in the industry.
Ever heard quotes from owners Vigs and Fuddles hit harder than Yanks?
21 blade stator is from the GM Minivan. Its NOT a unique design exclusive to any one company, though they may market its use as being exclusive in the industry.
It's not offered through any other company. Sure with extra $$$ they can build one for you but I've never seen anyone advertise one. Generally I've always heard Yanks hit the hardest BTW. I'm a Vig guy FWIW.
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Originally Posted by DanZ28
What manufactures don't use modified OEM converters?
TT3000? Trailblazer truck converter. 21 blade stator? GM Mini-van.
Horses for courses. Seek and you will find the truth. Compare apples to apples, not oranges.
Oh, and I dont mind the odd VIG converter either.
Originally Posted by Jpr5690
just casue yank says something doesnt make it true
Also on your comment about warranty. Name one case where the user wasn't doing something they weren't supposed to and got denied! You can't.
Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
You might want to do some research. Graphs comparing Yank to other brands are all over the web! It proves it. The products have been tested on a converter dyno by a third party (GM). Yank was the only manufacturer with guts enough to prove it!
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Seems like most people when switching from one converter to a Yank of equal stall speed will dyno a little more (or lose less).
Originally Posted by maddboost
Precision Industries builds all their converters none of them are modified OEMs.
and with 2 shifts there is a low turn around time. Also, the guys at PI have been racing for a long time! They know what is going on. 
Originally Posted by maddboost
Precision Industries builds all their converters none of them are modified OEMs.
So I have PI and Neal Chance so far. Who else?
Dan
