TCI and Midwest Converter guys !!
TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! Hey Guys,
What kind of performance are you guys getting with these converters ? I have had a 2800 vig in 93 LT1 for 5 yrs and it performed great without any problems. I am a Vigilante fan ,but I wouldnt mind trying another converter on my 2002 SS <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> . Also ,who sells Midwest converters ?
What kind of performance are you guys getting with these converters ? I have had a 2800 vig in 93 LT1 for 5 yrs and it performed great without any problems. I am a Vigilante fan ,but I wouldnt mind trying another converter on my 2002 SS <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> . Also ,who sells Midwest converters ?
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From: Lafayette, CO
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Colonel:
<strong> TCI 3500
11.82@113MPH 60ft of 1.61
FULL weight (Only the spare tire and jack removed)
STOCK gears
Radial tires
Internally stock engine running NA </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">SWEET !!!!! what other mods do you have on that car Colonel ? email me privately if you want to <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Anyone else with any input on the TCI and MIdwest converters ?
<strong> TCI 3500
11.82@113MPH 60ft of 1.61
FULL weight (Only the spare tire and jack removed)
STOCK gears
Radial tires
Internally stock engine running NA </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">SWEET !!!!! what other mods do you have on that car Colonel ? email me privately if you want to <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Anyone else with any input on the TCI and MIdwest converters ?
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From: Troy, AL
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! Oh, just your typical bolt-ons. Let's see if I can remember 'em all...
FTRA
K&N filter
MTI lid
GMS MAF
4.7K ohm resistor in the IAT sensor
Ported throttle body
LS1Edit
TR-6 plugs
QTP headers and off-road Y-pipe
QTP cuttout
ASP underdrive pully
Carbon fiber driveshaft
Nitto 315/35/17 drag radials on Fikse wheels
TCI shift kit
LCA relocators
Lowered the car 1" by cutting front springs and removing rear spring cushions
<small>[ March 20, 2003, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: Colonel ]</small>
FTRA
K&N filter
MTI lid
GMS MAF
4.7K ohm resistor in the IAT sensor
Ported throttle body
LS1Edit
TR-6 plugs
QTP headers and off-road Y-pipe
QTP cuttout
ASP underdrive pully
Carbon fiber driveshaft
Nitto 315/35/17 drag radials on Fikse wheels
TCI shift kit
LCA relocators
Lowered the car 1" by cutting front springs and removing rear spring cushions
<small>[ March 20, 2003, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: Colonel ]</small>
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! Colonel - Just curious why you run the TR-6 plugs instead of the usual TR-55 and how's that converter on the street with regular radials?
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From: Troy, AL
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! Glad you asked that. Well, it's because I used to run 'em in my '00 when I was using N2O and I really liked the idle characteristics as compared to stock. At the time I also managed to run trap speeds that were a good bit ahead of the rest of the internally stock NA world (115.8 I think) so I didn't feel they were hurting my NA power at all. No power loss you say? How could that be? I might have a hard time getting others to agree but I've found that with the cooler plugs I can run a little more timing advance on 93 octane without pinging than with the stock heat range. I believe this to offset the theoretical power loss from the plug being cooler. Just my idea and I really have no way to prove it since we're talking about such minute differences in power.
The TCI 3500 is an AWESOME street converter with great street manners for any tire but don't expect to hook it's full hit with regular radial tires. It's pretty hard to do with drag radials but impossible with regular radials.
The TCI 3500 is an AWESOME street converter with great street manners for any tire but don't expect to hook it's full hit with regular radial tires. It's pretty hard to do with drag radials but impossible with regular radials.
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Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! Thanks for info. I'm fence sitting between a Yank SS3800 or a custom TCI 3800 with a 2.2 STR. I'm looking to get out of the 1.80 60-fts (full weight, Y3200)and into the 1.6 range. I'm leaning toward the TCI based on price and delivery time, but worried about longevity since it's street driven.
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Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! I have a TCI 3500
Awesome track results:
went from 13.49 to 12.97
.5 gain!!
And the service from Kevin Steele and his company have been great so far.
<img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
Awesome track results:
went from 13.49 to 12.97
.5 gain!!
And the service from Kevin Steele and his company have been great so far.
<img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
On The Tree
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From: Crestview, FL
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! Colonel: im installing my TCI 3500 this weekend. Im pretty much a bolt on car as well, minus LT's and ls6 manifold. I also spray a 125 shot. I wanted something that would hit the tires hard and still stand up to n02 use. Im gonna be running a Nitto DR.
For the price I got it for and the feedback I had been getting I cant wait to see how it performs. Trevor D @ TEXas Speed and Performance hooked me up. He had also mentioned that his car had went high 1.5's on an ET street with the 3500..if im not mistaken.
I have 2.73's though..so I know its gonna hurt me some, but I know it will be a night/day difference against the stock stall. Do you know good shift points for a 2.73 3500 stall setup?
<small>[ March 21, 2003, 06:10 AM: Message edited by: broke7 ]</small>
For the price I got it for and the feedback I had been getting I cant wait to see how it performs. Trevor D @ TEXas Speed and Performance hooked me up. He had also mentioned that his car had went high 1.5's on an ET street with the 3500..if im not mistaken.
I have 2.73's though..so I know its gonna hurt me some, but I know it will be a night/day difference against the stock stall. Do you know good shift points for a 2.73 3500 stall setup?
<small>[ March 21, 2003, 06:10 AM: Message edited by: broke7 ]</small>
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From: Troy, AL
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! I shift at 6300 on the 1-2 and 6200 on the 2-3. For running a small shot of nitrous I'd drop about 300-400 RPM off of this. For a larger shot (if you ever decide to do this) you'd want to drop it a little more.
2.73s won't hurt you much with a good stall...especially on nitrous. Gears are way overrated. I ran 11.82 with 3.23s. If I'd had 3.73s I might have run 11.72. If I were running a 4500 stall then the difference would have been even less. You might keep the 2.73s. They're physically the strongest gear. The higher in number you go, the weaker the gear.
2.73s won't hurt you much with a good stall...especially on nitrous. Gears are way overrated. I ran 11.82 with 3.23s. If I'd had 3.73s I might have run 11.72. If I were running a 4500 stall then the difference would have been even less. You might keep the 2.73s. They're physically the strongest gear. The higher in number you go, the weaker the gear.
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From: Troy, AL
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! I just noticed you don't have LTs or LS6 intake. If you're running the stock exhaust manifolds and cats then you might knock another 100 RPM off of what I'm doing. For running N2O I HIGHLY recommend getting some headers and a free flowing exhaust (a cuttout would be good.)
Staging Lane
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From: Longwood, Fl.
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! I run a TCI streetfighter. It stalls at around 2600-2800. On street tires I could only manage high 1.9 60' with a trap of 115. Which gave me 12.30's. The converter is good, but I will worry about the rear when I get sticky's.
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On The Tree
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From: Crestview, FL
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! LT's are in the near future as well, as well as ls6 intake. I just have stock manifolds right now with a 3" bullet welded onto the I pipe and exiting with a turndown before the rear axle.
I have Nitto's. In all reality with good track prep, I would be happy with a 60ft in the high 1.6 low 1.7 area.
The 2.73 just has to many deadspots with stock stall, Now on the spray.. thats another story. I imagine it will be ruthless on the spray and 3500 verter.
I also changed the stock shift points to 6050 or so on the 1-2 shift and the same for the 2-3. Whats a good breakin time for the verter
I have Nitto's. In all reality with good track prep, I would be happy with a 60ft in the high 1.6 low 1.7 area.
The 2.73 just has to many deadspots with stock stall, Now on the spray.. thats another story. I imagine it will be ruthless on the spray and 3500 verter.
I also changed the stock shift points to 6050 or so on the 1-2 shift and the same for the 2-3. Whats a good breakin time for the verter
On The Tree
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From: Arlington, VA
Re: TCI and Midwest Converter guys !! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BLKTA:
<strong> Thanks for info. I'm fence sitting between a Yank SS3800 or a custom TCI 3800 with a 2.2 STR. I'm looking to get out of the 1.80 60-fts (full weight, Y3200)and into the 1.6 range. I'm leaning toward the TCI based on price and delivery time, but worried about longevity since it's street driven. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I've been considering the SSF, I emailed kevin and he suggested it, but I think the STR is a little too high for me, and the other converter they make doesn't seem aggressive enough. So they make custom converters? I think what I really want is a TCI 3500/3800 with a 2.3 STR. Something that will be a little easier to launch on drag radials...
<small>[ March 27, 2003, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: Julian ]</small>
<strong> Thanks for info. I'm fence sitting between a Yank SS3800 or a custom TCI 3800 with a 2.2 STR. I'm looking to get out of the 1.80 60-fts (full weight, Y3200)and into the 1.6 range. I'm leaning toward the TCI based on price and delivery time, but worried about longevity since it's street driven. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, I've been considering the SSF, I emailed kevin and he suggested it, but I think the STR is a little too high for me, and the other converter they make doesn't seem aggressive enough. So they make custom converters? I think what I really want is a TCI 3500/3800 with a 2.3 STR. Something that will be a little easier to launch on drag radials...
<small>[ March 27, 2003, 09:46 AM: Message edited by: Julian ]</small>
