1CAMWNDR

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I agree with Tony's line up and have said several times in the recent past that is what should happen. Bring the G8 to Chevrolet and get rid of the stupid alpha-numeric name. That is an Impala-Grand Prix-Cutlass-Skylark-Gran Sport-Biscayne-Caprice-Tempest-Chevelle........just pick one of the big car names from the past and use it.
The Sky should come to Chevrolet as the new Monza or Vega.

Irunelevens

I think people may shy away from "Vega." That's like Ford calling the new Focus the "Pinto."

Cole Train

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i agree that GMC should stay but in LIMITED models. Sierra/Denali and Acadia. Only GMC truck i'd own is the Denali and the Acadia's are NICE and see ALOT of them on the road. Sky should come over as a Chevy model and so should the G8. It'll be an interesting few years when this all starts to happen Since Pontiac will be starved to death i bet we'll see a Buick Trans Am WS6 before long

Z Fury

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The Astra does quite well, although I think it isn't geared the best in "automatic" trim (you're in 4th gear at around 35 mph, if not a bit sooner). It is a "foreign" car though, so there are some subtle changes to get use to. She has about 4300 miles on it in 3 months, and it seems to be running smoother now - all in all a solid little car for what it is.

I agree with the Malibu surviving at the expense of the Aura. There is so much redundancy in the GM stable that I overlook some of the more obvious ones...

I guess a "Buick Firehawk" would be just as fitting as the Firehawk G8...

05CherryGXP

A GNX Firehawk would be more worthy than a G8 Firehawk. I'm not saying it would be worthy, just closer to be being worthy.

2000_SS

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that's about how i feel. our '98 Silverado hasn't lost its appeal to me, but for 99+ models, i'll take the GMC especially the '05+ models.

LS1LT1

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That's a fine lookin' truck.

JD_AMG

You are definitely part of the minority then. While the Bonneville's interior is functional it's painful to look at, it makes you feel like you are in a rental car from the 80s. The G8's interior on the other hand makes you feel like you are at least driving something worth while.
You seem to be stuck in the 60s.
To me a "long, full sized appearance" usually means a boring, overweight car. Long front overhangs are an absolute appearance nightmare, which the Bonneville seems to suffer from. Example, look at the nasty front overhang on the DTS compared to the overhang on the CTS.



More often than not the typical 90s and older "long, full sized" American sedan has lots of wasted space that could have been trimmed down for weight savings and better aerodynamics.

Your looking at it wrong. Its a luxury/sports sedan first, a muscle car/performance car second. This is no way is trying to replace the typical two door performance coupe, but rather its just another class of vehicle. And rightfully so the styling should be compared to other cars of its class (other sports sedans, not coupes). Think of it like a cheaper CTS with a V8.

Apples to oranges.

Agreed. But again you are looking at it wrong. This car is in no way trying to replace the 2 door coupe in your garage, but rather its providing a great comfortable daily driver without compromising performance. While their performance might be similar, they should not be compared because they are of a different class. This car is for someone looking for a 4 door sports sedan, not a 2 door coupe.
Both of which are far more expensive than even the top of the line G8 GXP. Let me ask you, do you have a problem with the CTS-V? Does it bother you that Cadillac's fastest car is a 4 door?

RPM WS6

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I just can't agree with this. The materials in the G8 did not feel or look any nicer to me than the Bonneville GXP's. Just different taste I guess.

Thank you (seriously). Dozens of beautiful domestic cars were built in the '60s, these days I can count on one hand how many domestic cars look really good to me.

I have no issues with an overhang on a 4-door car, nor does weight bother me (so long as it's offset with some extra power).

Again, these are not concerns to me on a 4-door luxury car.


I understand the concept of a sport sedan, for people that "want it all" from one car, but I just don't share that desire. I'd much rather have a coupe whenever possibile.

How? The A-body cars of the '60s/'70s were all the exact same cars under the skin, other than the fact that you could have 2 or 4 doors. These were mid-sized cars in their day (just like the G8 is today). The coupes always looked better (opinion yes, but nearly ANYONE would agree with this). So I think it's safe (and fair) to say that a G8 coupe based on the same general style of the sedan pictured in this thread, would look better.


I think we're debating two different issues here. You're trying to sell me on the concept of a sport sedan.....I'm just trying to explain why I don't like the car personally....and what it would take to get me to like it. Remember, this debate started with me stating that Pontiac was off MY radar. That's just my personal preferance, because why the hell would I even consider a G8 4-door when I don't need or want 4-doors, and I can get the same performance and more muscular appearance out of a '10 Camaro SS, for the same price or less? Answer: I can't. Hence the reason why Pontiac is off the table for me.... if I buy something new, I can get much closer to what I want from Chevy, so that's where I'll go. If Pontiac had offered a G8 coupe, then I'd weigh that heavily against the Camaro before making a decision.

Not at all. It's a Cadillac, and although Cadillac used to offer a wide range of 2-door cars, they've never had a primary image of sport or performance....but rather luxury. Just so happens that they're now adding some ***** to the luxury. Pontiac on the other hand was supposed to have more of a "performance" image, or at least GM has stated this in the past. I just think that the Pontiac brand would be better served by having a world class, aggressive appearing and category leading performance car with a 2 door option. Solstice does not fit that description at all, IMO.

Rawr256

I remember my dad always telling me back in 2002 that Pontiac wont live another 10 years. Guess he was right.

Their marketting has always sucked for just about any brand. The brands that are moved the most are the ones that are advertised the most. Anyone outside of the car world would have no idea what a G8 is. Same could be said with the modern GTO, but even badging it a GTO was a mistake in the first place and lack of options was a poor mistake.

I honestly don't see GM living past 10 years from now if they keep going in the direction they are going. Funny thing is that everything people bitch and moan about the similarities about the Pontiacs with the nose and that is happening with the Chevy lineup, but apparently it is totally different. If you want to see what a Chevy G8 will look like, you probably don't have to look much further than the front and rear end of a Malibu. Instead of the grill being verticle it is going to be horizontal.

Also for the record, I would so rock a Bonnie GXP just like you RPM WS6. Don't know what it is but the car has always kind of appealed to me. Even if it has a "rental" car type of interior, which I would guess that comes down to any car with some sort of leather or vinyl layers on it.

killerinparadise

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For you RPM WS6 it's what a 2 door G8 coupe would have looked like. It's in Holden form but you get the idea.

KW4life06

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damn thats sexy. I don't understand people hating on the g8s. They are a great car inside and out, their only problem being lack of movement sales wise. Part of that may be their pricing, but quality isn't cheap.

Irunelevens

The problem is it's too late. There's been too long of a pattern of mediocre offerings for people to jump right back into bed with the Big 3. It's gonna take time.