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Gov wants to crush your v8 Letter from Summit Racing:
Dear Fellow Enthusiast,
Last month, we sent you an Urgent Legislative Alert from The Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) regarding a proposed “Cash for Clunkers” bill that would threaten our hobby. Thanks to your overwhelming response, this legislation was dropped from the economic stimulus package. Congratulations for standing up for your rights as enthusiasts!
We have just received a follow-up Legislative Alert from SEMA. New legislation (S. 247 and H.R. 520) has been introduced in Congress to create a national vehicle scrappage program which will give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in their “gas guzzlers” to have them crushed. This program would target vehicles with low fuel economy ratings of any model year. That means sports cars, SUVs, and performance-built vehicles could be crushed in exchange for a monetary reward.
The following information is directly from SEMA. If you would like to contact the lawmaker, follow the instructions in the alert.
Thank you for your time,
Your Friends at Summit Racing Equipment
Our effort to prevent Congress from including a nationwide “Cash for Clunkers” program in the economic stimulus package has been successful – so far. Thousands of SEMA members and SEMA Action Network (SAN) enthusiasts contacted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in opposition to the plan. The Speaker’s Office informed us that your emails, calls and faxes were received and, thanks to your work, Cash for Clunkers was not included in the economic stimulus package introduced in mid-January in the House of Representatives. Unfortunately, new legislation (S. 247 and H.R. 520) has been introduced in Congress to create a national vehicle scrappage program which will give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in their “gas guzzlers” to have them crushed. Lawmakers need to scrap this idea!
Contact Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) Immediately
to Oppose S. 247 and H.R. 520
The so-called “Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act” is Cash for Clunkers with a twist. Instead of focusing exclusively on older cars, this program would target vehicles with low fuel economy ratings of any model year. Participants would receive cash vouchers ranging from $2,500 to $4,500 based on the model year and whether the replacement vehicle was a more fuel-efficient new car or used car (MY 2004 or later). Fuel-efficient is defined as getting at least 25 percent better mileage for the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) target for its class. The bill sponsors want to scrap up to one million cars a year for at least four years.
There is no evidence that the program would achieve the goal of boosting new car sales or increasing fuel mileage. Many states have considered scrappage programs in the past as a way to help clean the air or increase mpg, but abandoned the effort because they simply don’t work. The programs are not cost-effective and do not achieve verifiable air quality or fuel economy benefits, but they do have a devastating impact on the many small businesses that market products and services for the scrapped cars.
Don’t Delay! Please contact Senator Diane Feinstein and Rep. Henry Waxman today to urge their opposition to S. 247 and H.R. 520. For those who responded to our first call for action, we need you again, along with everyone else.
Contact Sen. Dianne Feinstein to oppose S. 247
Click here to send an email: http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/inde ... Us.EmailMe
Call: (202) 224-3841
Fax: (202) 228-3954
Contact Henry Waxman to oppose HR 520
Click here to send an email: http://energycommerce.house.gov/index.p ... 3&Itemid=1
Call: (202) 225-2927
Fax: (202) 225-2525
Talking Points
Oppose the Use of U.S. Taxpayer Dollars for Accelerated Vehicle Retirement
I am writing to urge lawmakers not to approve an “accelerated vehicle retirement” program. Even on a voluntary basis, the program will hurt thousands of independent repair shops, auto restorers, customizers and their customers across the country that depend on the used car market. These businesses are already very vulnerable in the weak economy.
An accelerated vehicle retirement program is flawed since it does not target the “gross polluter,” an improperly maintained vehicle of any make or model year that has poor fuel mileage and dramatically more emissions due to poor maintenance.
An accelerated vehicle retirement program is flawed because it does not factor-in how many miles-a-year the collected vehicles are currently being driven. U.S. taxpayers will be buying rarely-driven second and third vehicles that have minimal impact on overall fuel economy and air pollution.
Accelerated vehicle retirement won’t generate many new car sales. The cash incentive provided will not be enough to enable a person to buy a new or used vehicle.
Accelerated vehicle retirement will compete with nonprofits that rely on vehicle donations to raise funds, such as the Salvation Army, the Purple Heart and other charities.
Accelerated vehicle retirement threatens to disrupt a large and complex industry which already handles scrappage, repair, remanufacturing and recycling issues. This independent industry provides thousands of American jobs and generates millions of dollars in local, state and federal tax revenues.
Accelerated vehicle retirement ignores better policy options. Taxpayer dollars would be better spent as direct tax incentives to purchase a fuel-efficient new or used car, without a government vehicle crushing program. Congress should also provide tax incentives to upgrade, repair and maintain existing cars, trucks and SUVs. There are many commercially available products and technologies that can substantially improve fuel mileage and lower the emissions.
We hope we can count on you to reject “Accelerated Vehicle Retirement.” Thank you for your consideration on this very important matter.
If you choose to send a note and/or message to Sen. Feinstein and Rep. Waxman please forward a copy of your message to:
E-mail: briand@sema.org
This email was sent to you by:
Summit Racing Equipment
1200 Southeast Avenue
Tallmadge, OH 44278
If you think thats bad just look at the following. Ohio and other states want to penalize you for drving. http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009...miles_tax.html
Obama and 2011 fuel standards.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28846202/
Man why does obama and his buddies have such a hard on for this crap. THE REAL PROBLEM IN AIR POLUTION IS NOT CARS ITS BIG BUSSINESS !! Sorry for the rant but they are trying to strip us of our rights. It will only hurt us more when demand for gas falls because big oil will jack the price up sky high to keep them at same profit levels. Wheres the justice in this? This isnt the 70's, technology is way more advanced these days, almost all cars made since the early 90's burn fuel alot cleaner than the cars of the past- most of which are off the road. This getting really crazy. I for one will be contacting those people and I encourage you all to do the same. Wheres all this focus on health care and job creating plans at? If they focused on that as much as they do this pointless bs we might be able to actually turn this country around. End rant.
Dear Fellow Enthusiast,
Last month, we sent you an Urgent Legislative Alert from The Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) regarding a proposed “Cash for Clunkers” bill that would threaten our hobby. Thanks to your overwhelming response, this legislation was dropped from the economic stimulus package. Congratulations for standing up for your rights as enthusiasts!
We have just received a follow-up Legislative Alert from SEMA. New legislation (S. 247 and H.R. 520) has been introduced in Congress to create a national vehicle scrappage program which will give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in their “gas guzzlers” to have them crushed. This program would target vehicles with low fuel economy ratings of any model year. That means sports cars, SUVs, and performance-built vehicles could be crushed in exchange for a monetary reward.
The following information is directly from SEMA. If you would like to contact the lawmaker, follow the instructions in the alert.
Thank you for your time,
Your Friends at Summit Racing Equipment
Our effort to prevent Congress from including a nationwide “Cash for Clunkers” program in the economic stimulus package has been successful – so far. Thousands of SEMA members and SEMA Action Network (SAN) enthusiasts contacted House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in opposition to the plan. The Speaker’s Office informed us that your emails, calls and faxes were received and, thanks to your work, Cash for Clunkers was not included in the economic stimulus package introduced in mid-January in the House of Representatives. Unfortunately, new legislation (S. 247 and H.R. 520) has been introduced in Congress to create a national vehicle scrappage program which will give U.S. tax dollars to consumers who turn-in their “gas guzzlers” to have them crushed. Lawmakers need to scrap this idea!
Contact Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) Immediately
to Oppose S. 247 and H.R. 520
The so-called “Accelerated Retirement of Inefficient Vehicles Act” is Cash for Clunkers with a twist. Instead of focusing exclusively on older cars, this program would target vehicles with low fuel economy ratings of any model year. Participants would receive cash vouchers ranging from $2,500 to $4,500 based on the model year and whether the replacement vehicle was a more fuel-efficient new car or used car (MY 2004 or later). Fuel-efficient is defined as getting at least 25 percent better mileage for the corporate average fuel economy (CAFE) target for its class. The bill sponsors want to scrap up to one million cars a year for at least four years.
There is no evidence that the program would achieve the goal of boosting new car sales or increasing fuel mileage. Many states have considered scrappage programs in the past as a way to help clean the air or increase mpg, but abandoned the effort because they simply don’t work. The programs are not cost-effective and do not achieve verifiable air quality or fuel economy benefits, but they do have a devastating impact on the many small businesses that market products and services for the scrapped cars.
Don’t Delay! Please contact Senator Diane Feinstein and Rep. Henry Waxman today to urge their opposition to S. 247 and H.R. 520. For those who responded to our first call for action, we need you again, along with everyone else.
Contact Sen. Dianne Feinstein to oppose S. 247
Click here to send an email: http://feinstein.senate.gov/public/inde ... Us.EmailMe
Call: (202) 224-3841
Fax: (202) 228-3954
Contact Henry Waxman to oppose HR 520
Click here to send an email: http://energycommerce.house.gov/index.p ... 3&Itemid=1
Call: (202) 225-2927
Fax: (202) 225-2525
Talking Points
Oppose the Use of U.S. Taxpayer Dollars for Accelerated Vehicle Retirement
I am writing to urge lawmakers not to approve an “accelerated vehicle retirement” program. Even on a voluntary basis, the program will hurt thousands of independent repair shops, auto restorers, customizers and their customers across the country that depend on the used car market. These businesses are already very vulnerable in the weak economy.
An accelerated vehicle retirement program is flawed since it does not target the “gross polluter,” an improperly maintained vehicle of any make or model year that has poor fuel mileage and dramatically more emissions due to poor maintenance.
An accelerated vehicle retirement program is flawed because it does not factor-in how many miles-a-year the collected vehicles are currently being driven. U.S. taxpayers will be buying rarely-driven second and third vehicles that have minimal impact on overall fuel economy and air pollution.
Accelerated vehicle retirement won’t generate many new car sales. The cash incentive provided will not be enough to enable a person to buy a new or used vehicle.
Accelerated vehicle retirement will compete with nonprofits that rely on vehicle donations to raise funds, such as the Salvation Army, the Purple Heart and other charities.
Accelerated vehicle retirement threatens to disrupt a large and complex industry which already handles scrappage, repair, remanufacturing and recycling issues. This independent industry provides thousands of American jobs and generates millions of dollars in local, state and federal tax revenues.
Accelerated vehicle retirement ignores better policy options. Taxpayer dollars would be better spent as direct tax incentives to purchase a fuel-efficient new or used car, without a government vehicle crushing program. Congress should also provide tax incentives to upgrade, repair and maintain existing cars, trucks and SUVs. There are many commercially available products and technologies that can substantially improve fuel mileage and lower the emissions.
We hope we can count on you to reject “Accelerated Vehicle Retirement.” Thank you for your consideration on this very important matter.
If you choose to send a note and/or message to Sen. Feinstein and Rep. Waxman please forward a copy of your message to:
E-mail: briand@sema.org
This email was sent to you by:
Summit Racing Equipment
1200 Southeast Avenue
Tallmadge, OH 44278
If you think thats bad just look at the following. Ohio and other states want to penalize you for drving. http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009...miles_tax.html
Obama and 2011 fuel standards.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28846202/
Man why does obama and his buddies have such a hard on for this crap. THE REAL PROBLEM IN AIR POLUTION IS NOT CARS ITS BIG BUSSINESS !! Sorry for the rant but they are trying to strip us of our rights. It will only hurt us more when demand for gas falls because big oil will jack the price up sky high to keep them at same profit levels. Wheres the justice in this? This isnt the 70's, technology is way more advanced these days, almost all cars made since the early 90's burn fuel alot cleaner than the cars of the past- most of which are off the road. This getting really crazy. I for one will be contacting those people and I encourage you all to do the same. Wheres all this focus on health care and job creating plans at? If they focused on that as much as they do this pointless bs we might be able to actually turn this country around. End rant.
01-28-2009, 04:54 PM
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This might be a good idea for billybob who has a few broke down V8's in his yard he wants cash for but it's not gonna effect us. Who on here would willingly turn over there car for that small amount of money?? No one who is a true car guy would turn over his vechicle willingly. So I don't see it even doin any good.
01-28-2009, 06:15 PM
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This might be a good idea for billybob who has a few broke down V8's in his yard he wants cash for but it's not gonna effect us. Who on here would willingly turn over there car for that small amount of money?? No one who is a true car guy would turn over his vechicle willingly. So I don't see it even doin any good.
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01-29-2009, 12:05 AM
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Man why does obama and his buddies have such a hard on for this crap. THE REAL PROBLEM IN AIR POLUTION IS NOT CARS ITS BIG BUSSINESS !! Sorry for the rant but they are trying to strip us of our rights. It will only hurt us more when demand for gas falls because big oil will jack the price up sky high to keep them at same profit levels. Wheres the justice in this? This isnt the 70's, technology is way more advanced these days, almost all cars made since the early 90's burn fuel alot cleaner than the cars of the past- most of which are off the road. This getting really crazy. I for one will be contacting those people and I encourage you all to do the same. Wheres all this focus on health care and job creating plans at? If they focused on that as much as they do this pointless bs we might be able to actually turn this country around. End rant.
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Mountain out of a mole hill???
No where does it say they are going to put a gun to your head, and make you hand in anything.
This could be a good thing for people, like someone posted up about Billybob who has 5 cars in in front yard and none are running.
1) If you're driving a 86 station wagon, you could get up to 4Grand and get a decent used card for a few bucks more
2) There are always going to be cars / new or used on the road so mechanics will always have work
3) Purple Hearts Salvation army will still be fine, they get donations through other things and people will still give them cars and they will turn them in. It might not be the HUGE amounts, but who knows.
No where does it say they are going to put a gun to your head, and make you hand in anything.
This could be a good thing for people, like someone posted up about Billybob who has 5 cars in in front yard and none are running.
1) If you're driving a 86 station wagon, you could get up to 4Grand and get a decent used card for a few bucks more
2) There are always going to be cars / new or used on the road so mechanics will always have work
3) Purple Hearts Salvation army will still be fine, they get donations through other things and people will still give them cars and they will turn them in. It might not be the HUGE amounts, but who knows.
01-29-2009, 08:42 AM
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This link is what bothers me:
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009...miles_tax.html
Specifically this part:
No way do I want them knowing where I am all the time, that is none of their business and an intrusion of privacy here.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009...miles_tax.html
Specifically this part:
A dashboard display, a GPS receiver and antenna, a mileage counter unit and a short-range-radio-frequency antenna were placed in 285 vehicles. The counter tallied miles a person drove in the state.
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Yeah I'm not a big fan of the travel tax, but I could care less if I had a GPS in my car for it I guess. I mean I'm not going to do anything wrong so what do I care if uncle sam can see my driving to work, the movies, the beach, the grocery store?
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Yeah, but would you be ok with the police just coming to your house once a week to do random searches? I mean, if you're not doing anything wrong you're not gonna get in trouble... some stuff just goes too far.
01-29-2009, 10:00 AM
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I guess I wouldn't be cool, but what am I doing wrong, nothing? Besides a couple of illegal songs downloaded on my computer, and maybe the occasional poker night. Most phones have GPS on them already and even if you turn off the GPS, your 911 GPS is still active. They can track that if they reallllly wanted to track you.
01-29-2009, 11:42 AM
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Here's an idea; Mexico wants California back. Let's throw in Oregon & call it a done deal. I'm sick & tired of the Socialist Nazies out West trying to impose their will on the rest of the Country. Thank-God that the Shwartzeneger era is almost over. That's the thing about Austrian's, they think their F'ckd up reality is a great thing for the rest of the World, ie; Hitler/Shwartzeneger
F'ck California, F'ck Oregon, F'ck Gore (An inconvenient Lie), F'ck the Simple Minds that define Human generated Carbon Monoxide as the major cause of Climate change, when in fact, the Earth's deteriorating Magnetic field along w/ Oceanic microbes cause more increased radiation & Ozone deterioration than Human generated Carbon Monoxide ever has, ever will. Open you eye's people. BTW, anyone here think Al Gore is more intelligent than they are???
The only reason to decrease Human generated Carbon Monoxide is to improve the air quality in areas where emmission are trapped. Places like LA & Mexico City where the Mountain ranges keep the smog from leaving the area.
F'ck California, F'ck Oregon, F'ck Gore (An inconvenient Lie), F'ck the Simple Minds that define Human generated Carbon Monoxide as the major cause of Climate change, when in fact, the Earth's deteriorating Magnetic field along w/ Oceanic microbes cause more increased radiation & Ozone deterioration than Human generated Carbon Monoxide ever has, ever will. Open you eye's people. BTW, anyone here think Al Gore is more intelligent than they are???
The only reason to decrease Human generated Carbon Monoxide is to improve the air quality in areas where emmission are trapped. Places like LA & Mexico City where the Mountain ranges keep the smog from leaving the area.
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Hello fourth gen resale value increase. I guess I'll be keeping my formula for many years to come. And perhaps adding a few new guzzler's to my stable, seeing how this motion (if passed) will surely drive down the cost of new V8 powered cars
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Consider this a gateway bill. Apathy on the part of the average citizen is what lets governments take away your freedoms and rights. Small bill after small bill gets passed and before you realized whats happen you're living in the UK.
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Never, ever, EVER offer to hand over your freedoms and/or right to privacy just because "I'm not doing anything wrong, so what's to hide?". Worst reason ever.
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Hey I'm not saying roll over on everything, but guess what if they want to know where you are, they will find you. Plain and simple.