BAD2000TA

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I like, but they should have installed the V8 from the Genesis 4-door. Now that would be really fun and an exciting option to Camaro/Mustang/Challenger.

WECIV

"Guess you aren't old enought to remember where Toyota, Honda, and Nissan (Datsun) came from"

I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to look like an old geezer

W

25psi

Ummmm the 370z is 1.5 seconds quicker. Magazines have already tested it at 13.3 at 107. Not even close.

Chadder

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Since when was a turbo 4 better 'modability' wise than the GM DOHC DI 3.6? People are getting 300+hp out of just intake and exhaust. There is supposedly alot left in the tune due to DI also. At just 1 mph lower in the quarter on a considerably heavier car (and .1 et faster), I think even the v6 Camaro is more than competitive with the v6 genesis. The 4 cyl genesis is going to get stomped in stock form.

I'm going to have to say the higher displacement DI motor is going to have much more potential than a little turbo 4.

GM motors>>>>hyundai motors.

jimmy169

I'm curious what the weight difference will be between the turbo 4 banger and the v6 because I'm more interested in the potential of the turbo 4 cylinder.



Now that's interesting because where you see no potential I see a boost controller, possibly some fuel mods, and maybe a more efficient intercooler depending on what's offered stock. Maybe a bigger downpipe, 3" exhuast, and if that get's old, maybe some race gas on track days and another few turns of the boost controller.

Have to wonder what your opinion is of dsm's and evo's, sti's, srt's, etc? You believe n/a v6's have more potential?

jimmy169

Exactly, I meant more interesting competition for the v8's like a stock auto srt-8 challenger. Although I really don't like magazine test time's, I think it's prob around there though.

Chadder

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For the v6, I see intake, exhaust, a tune, and possibly some boost. The Nissan VQ has already seen 6's in the quarter mile and the GM DI v6 has a relatively similar architecture.

More displacement (on a well engineered platform) =more potential, it's physics.

jimmy169

And so has a little turbo 4 cylinder, brent Rau in his dsm but that car has a tubed chassis, even more interesting is Shep's 7 second pass in his manaul awd dsm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwNzbcEXudE (no nitrous.)


Man that's weard, i mean it's just a little turbo 4 cylinder, maybe the hyundai will also have similar architecture.

DrkPhx

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That's shock; a mainstream media outlet blinded by their love of imports.

Exactly right.

Chadder

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You're missing my point. This has less to do with proving a turbo 4's (which no one has even touched or modded yet) potential than it is acknowledging the v6's.

Besides, it is a well known fact that (as far as street cars are concerned) higher displacement engines can make higher amounts of horsepower more reliably. Very few people daily drive 600+hp 4 bangers relative to the amount of people that daily drive v8's at the same hp level.

jimmy169

Ok here's the simple reason why I agree with the other guy that the turbo 4 banger will prob. be the better bang for the buck and have better potential (I was just playing around before ). You say you can throw on some boost like it's that simple, I think that's a big waste of money. The v6 won't have the best and more suitable compression for forced induction, so you'll be throwing who knows how much on a kit that you can't get much potential out of without doing internals, where as the stock turbo 4 banger should already have nice safe low compression for forced induction so it'll be a lot easier to upgrade if you know the right mods, a boost controller is cheap as hell you just need the right fuel mods to keep it safe. With the v6 bolt on's and cams and etc won't respond as well as they would in a v8, and i've already stated why i think forced induction would be a waste of money, or atleast a lot more money than you prob. think, but ofcourse with enough money the sky's the limit, but potential wise aspecially bang for the buck I think there's a good argument to be made for the 4 banger, but then again we don't have any info on it yet, lol.

edit: Wow I can't believe your using this childish old excuse. Ofcourse, take money constraints out of the picture and the sky's the limit.

I'll tell you what, you've just won me over with this argument, idk what I was thinking, good work kiddo. There's no getting anything by you.

Irunelevens

I was talking about the 4cyl Genesis vs. the V6 Genesis. And Hyundai will make the wise decision and wait to see how the car sells before deciding whether or not to drop the V8 in it.

Chadder

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I had a pretty reasonable post going until you added this. Thanks for becoming a douchebag. In street cars reliability counts for something.

Irunelevens: Ok. That makes more sense.

El es one

Something is not right here...hmmm.

The car weights 3488lbs,has 308hp and yet gets 14.5's....sound like this car is not even close to it's potential.I know more factors come into play in determining a car's 1/4 mile but this seems way off to me

I expect atleast high 13s at best.

The car handles great though.

Sinner

The car deploys an anchor and a parachute every time you shift with lots of throttle. Like beginners torque management.

The thing no one has mentioned yet and should scare the domestics is this is Hyundai's first true sports coupe. Just think what they'll accomplish in a mid cycle update or second generation.

jimmy169

Sorry, i always assume the worst when reading the internet, bad habit. I just can't stand that argument, when I owned my dsm I'd get that all the time, "no replacement for displacement," drove me nuts, also was prob the reason I had to buy an ls1 to see what all the fuss was about. There's a lot more you have to consider when it come's to reliability, the engine isn't all that can go wrong with a car. A car could have an amazing powerplant with loads of potential, but what about it's driveline, what if that's ****, it's tranny, rear, you name it, those things add up and your car is only as good as the weakest link. But back to the hyundai, I stand by my statement about the compression being suitable for forced induction so it's not so simple to add FI to a n/a v6, I'm curious about your response. If you do the math, I think the turbo 4 banger will have more potential, and better bang for the buck, if we're talking stock internals and basically bolt on or fuel related mods, even all top end mods, the turbo'd car should be easier, cheaper, and respond a lot better to mods.

Chadder

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My response? Well, I may come back to this post a little later and elaborate, I'm walking out the door, but here's my response:

Boost isn't the only power adder out there

WECIV

I would be interested to see what the I4 could do. I wish the new camaro had a cheaper model with a TC I4. I think it could sell well.

W

jmurray87

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Looks like the Genesis beat out the G37 according to Autoblog in a test.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/02/27/h...first-compari/

jimmy169

Well it'll be interesting to see what the fanbase does with it when it come's out, but in todays economy idk if I'd expect much to be done with a brand new car but who knows maybe some shops will get right to work on both.