President Obama To Nationalize California Emission Standard & Stengthen CAFE
06-02-2009, 03:28 PM
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They can't change regs for cars that have already been built. It's not like your 2002 model year car will become illegal just because it can't meet the 2016 MPG standards. All this talk is for NEW cars coming out, not the stuff that's already been built.
I doubt that CA-style state emissions inspection testing would be madated nationwide. Just think about the low population areas of the country, I mean, where is a county in northern Montana going to get the sort of cash needed to setup test facilities like those found in southern CA?
Honestly, the worst thing that can happen is that our cars will be forced to meet the emissions standards that they were built to acheive in the first place. But for areas/states without inspections, it's going to take a lot of cash to get those programs going. I don't see the fed coming up with that cash for each and every county of each and every state, so my guess is that enforcement/testing will be left up to the descretion of the states like it is today.
Fed will only mandate certain nationwide regs for new cars being sold. That's what I take from this news.
I doubt that CA-style state emissions inspection testing would be madated nationwide. Just think about the low population areas of the country, I mean, where is a county in northern Montana going to get the sort of cash needed to setup test facilities like those found in southern CA?
Honestly, the worst thing that can happen is that our cars will be forced to meet the emissions standards that they were built to acheive in the first place. But for areas/states without inspections, it's going to take a lot of cash to get those programs going. I don't see the fed coming up with that cash for each and every county of each and every state, so my guess is that enforcement/testing will be left up to the descretion of the states like it is today.
Fed will only mandate certain nationwide regs for new cars being sold. That's what I take from this news.
I agree with you and believe you are completely right.
06-02-2009, 05:42 PM
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95% of African Americans voted for Obama.
more importantly (IMO) he got voted in on Age. More people in the range of 18-24 voted than previous elections and specifically he really won in the 18-29 range.
I'm not going to bring my further opinions in on it because lets just say I think a lot of people in that age group voted the way they did for the wrong reasons.
06-02-2009, 05:59 PM
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this is your profile!!!!! You poor thing you never had a chance. I couldn't imagine going through life without an independent thought!
The worst part is, you had the audaucity too suggest I was bias!
The really pathetic part is you make those claims on your signature and you can't even hold a reasonable discuss on the issues. You just slander with , "extreme poltical views" please quote me as to what I said that would suggest I have extreme political views.
FOR THE UPTENTH TIME I"M MIDDLE OF THE ROAD! I like some left issues and some right. So that makes me extreme how?
Change, change, 'Change We Can Believe In' , Change, change
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this is your profile!!!!! You poor thing you never had a chance. I couldn't imagine going through life without an independent thought!
The worst part is, you had the audaucity too suggest I was bias!
The really pathetic part is you make those claims on your signature and you can't even hold a reasonable discuss on the issues. You just slander with , "extreme poltical views" please quote me as to what I said that would suggest I have extreme political views.
FOR THE UPTENTH TIME I"M MIDDLE OF THE ROAD! I like some left issues and some right. So that makes me extreme how?
Change, change, 'Change We Can Believe In' , Change, change
thats what all the excited lambs were saying,
as they left the not so green field,
and entered the slaughter house.
WOW! You are a crazy person. For starters the DNC strategist was a joke from SSU and about 3yrs old. The UAW member is fact and Im proud of it. You might feel certain ways towards differet issues that would not suggest anyone party but you certainly lack in rational thought and suggest any govt intervention as a leadway to a socialist dictatorship. You now claim that my beliefs are based upon a layed out platform of ideals that I just conform to with little thought or consideration. I actually am apart of an advisory board with the UAW and am constantly questioning politics Im skeptical of and get into enough discussions with congressmen and their staff that I like and dislike
06-02-2009, 10:15 PM
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Hmm I can't tell you everyone's reason for voting. but I can tell you this:
95% of African Americans voted for Obama.
more importantly (IMO) he got voted in on Age. More people in the range of 18-24 voted than previous elections and specifically he really won in the 18-29 range.
I'm not going to bring my further opinions in on it because lets just say I think a lot of people in that age group voted the way they did for the wrong reasons.
95% of African Americans voted for Obama.
more importantly (IMO) he got voted in on Age. More people in the range of 18-24 voted than previous elections and specifically he really won in the 18-29 range.
I'm not going to bring my further opinions in on it because lets just say I think a lot of people in that age group voted the way they did for the wrong reasons.
Sad what campaigns and elections have turned into, isn't it?
06-02-2009, 11:19 PM
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for the obama voters: i told you so.
for all the others: theres still hope f we can get control of conggress back to conservatives and get rid of the great oreo (lets face it, hes not black) in 2012
for all the others: theres still hope f we can get control of conggress back to conservatives and get rid of the great oreo (lets face it, hes not black) in 2012
06-03-2009, 07:21 AM
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Hmm I can't tell you everyone's reason for voting. but I can tell you this:
95% of African Americans voted for Obama.
more importantly (IMO) he got voted in on Age. More people in the range of 18-24 voted than previous elections and specifically he really won in the 18-29 range.
I'm not going to bring my further opinions in on it because lets just say I think a lot of people in that age group voted the way they did for the wrong reasons.
95% of African Americans voted for Obama.
more importantly (IMO) he got voted in on Age. More people in the range of 18-24 voted than previous elections and specifically he really won in the 18-29 range.
I'm not going to bring my further opinions in on it because lets just say I think a lot of people in that age group voted the way they did for the wrong reasons.
Well I didn't want to be that obvious but I agree, specially on the age thing. It's amazing how people were so scared of McCains age. I guess they had a right, I don't know about Palin...she scared me a bit.
Oh well elections over...
06-07-2009, 11:24 AM
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Hmm I can't tell you everyone's reason for voting. but I can tell you this:
95% of African Americans voted for Obama.
more importantly (IMO) he got voted in on Age. More people in the range of 18-24 voted than previous elections and specifically he really won in the 18-29 range.
I'm not going to bring my further opinions in on it because lets just say I think a lot of people in that age group voted the way they did for the wrong reasons.
95% of African Americans voted for Obama.
more importantly (IMO) he got voted in on Age. More people in the range of 18-24 voted than previous elections and specifically he really won in the 18-29 range.
I'm not going to bring my further opinions in on it because lets just say I think a lot of people in that age group voted the way they did for the wrong reasons.
06-07-2009, 01:09 PM
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06-07-2009, 01:32 PM
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This has got to be the most absurd statement in this thread, lmao.
Black people only make up about 13% of the US. Even if every single black person voted for him because he was black, that's nowhere near 50%. Obama would not have won without the white vote. Are you really suggesting that a sizable portion of the while population voted for him because he was black? Makes no sense. Even if you include ALL minorities, that's still nowhere near 50%.
Obama won because:
1. we were in an economic crisis and historically Americans have rated Democrats higher on the economy
2. there was an unpopular outgoing president who was a Republican, and Obama's whole campaign strategy was to tie McCain to Bush, and it worked
3. Sarah Palin
(maybe you blood red conservatives liked her but I can tell you that she turned off a LOT of independents)
Black people only make up about 13% of the US. Even if every single black person voted for him because he was black, that's nowhere near 50%. Obama would not have won without the white vote. Are you really suggesting that a sizable portion of the while population voted for him because he was black? Makes no sense. Even if you include ALL minorities, that's still nowhere near 50%.
Obama won because:
1. we were in an economic crisis and historically Americans have rated Democrats higher on the economy
2. there was an unpopular outgoing president who was a Republican, and Obama's whole campaign strategy was to tie McCain to Bush, and it worked
3. Sarah Palin
(maybe you blood red conservatives liked her but I can tell you that she turned off a LOT of independents) 
