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The Camaro still has the edge.
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The Mustang now has the edge.
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It's a driver's race.
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Test Data Comparo - LS3 Camaro SS vs 5.0 Mustang GT
#81
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I wouldnt be so hard on the L99...they are just a little more inconsistent. The strong running L99 cars trap 106-109. The stock record for an L99 is 12.8...not too shabby (only 3 tenths behind ls3). I dont think A v6 stang will ever even come close to touching that in stock form.
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Definitely Justin. My point was the V6 get impresses me a lot.
Check out these videos of M/T heads up dragging the pony cars in the v8 and then v6 races.
V8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o3p8...eature=channel
But check out the V6 Comparison - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq17e...eature=channel
You can see the SS starting to gain some ground on the GT at the big end.
Also I little off topic but Evolution Performance has had a 2011 GT they took delivery on a few days ago. At 100 miles on the odo it laid down 368.6rwhp/352rwtq. With k&n drop in filter, offroad x-pipe, catback exhaust, and tune the car made 405rwhp/375rwtq. Not bad.
Check out these videos of M/T heads up dragging the pony cars in the v8 and then v6 races.
V8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o3p8...eature=channel
But check out the V6 Comparison - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq17e...eature=channel
You can see the SS starting to gain some ground on the GT at the big end.
Also I little off topic but Evolution Performance has had a 2011 GT they took delivery on a few days ago. At 100 miles on the odo it laid down 368.6rwhp/352rwtq. With k&n drop in filter, offroad x-pipe, catback exhaust, and tune the car made 405rwhp/375rwtq. Not bad.
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Were people actually saying that?
I know many were questioning whether it could hit 500rwhp NA or not but I didn't think that going '11s NA' was ever in doubt.
Hell, even the latest 4.6L GTs can hit 11s NA with a little work done.
This new 5.0 car will not only hit 11s NA but will even do it with just a few bolt ons in almost any weather.
Depending on how far one goes with weight reduction these GTs will go well into the 11s with full bolt ons and into the 10s with heads and cams.
I know many were questioning whether it could hit 500rwhp NA or not but I didn't think that going '11s NA' was ever in doubt.
Hell, even the latest 4.6L GTs can hit 11s NA with a little work done.
This new 5.0 car will not only hit 11s NA but will even do it with just a few bolt ons in almost any weather.
Depending on how far one goes with weight reduction these GTs will go well into the 11s with full bolt ons and into the 10s with heads and cams.
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The manual V6 Mustangs might see a best of 13.4s/13.5s in the most ideal air/track conditions with the most skilled drivers.
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26hp to be exact.
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But the mph to me looks like it might be right at that power level. And here is why I say that.
Look at the car and driver review of the Saleen 302SMS:
Turns out what he really had in mind was the debut of his new SMS 302, which—you guessed it—is based on the new 2011 Mustang GT with its new 302-cubic-inch (5.0-liter) engine. The SMS 302 remains naturally aspirated but produces “over 440 hp and 400 lb-ft of torque”—improvements of 28 hp and 10 lb-ft—thanks to a new head design, a high-flow exhaust system, an optimized accessory-drive system, and reworked engine calibration. Zero to 60 mph is expected to take just 4.5 seconds with the quarter-mile passing in 13.5 seconds at 116 mph.
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Were people actually saying that?
I know many were questioning whether it could hit 500rwhp NA or not but I didn't think that going '11s NA' was ever in doubt.
Hell, even the latest 4.6L GTs can hit 11s NA with a little work done.
This new 5.0 car will not only hit 11s NA but will even do it with just a few bolt ons in almost any weather.
Depending on how far one goes with weight reduction these GTs will go well into the 11s with full bolt ons and into the 10s with heads and cams.
I know many were questioning whether it could hit 500rwhp NA or not but I didn't think that going '11s NA' was ever in doubt.
Hell, even the latest 4.6L GTs can hit 11s NA with a little work done.
This new 5.0 car will not only hit 11s NA but will even do it with just a few bolt ons in almost any weather.
Depending on how far one goes with weight reduction these GTs will go well into the 11s with full bolt ons and into the 10s with heads and cams.
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ive said before i think the bolt on limit is 415-425 rwhp. nobody knows the stock cam specs. the cams really matter.
also head porting. is there room for more flow? well 37mm vales are not max. 39mm will fit great and not be as shrouded as a stock bore 4.6. theres more to be had, but who knows how much. i dont think theres 75rwhp to be had in heads/cams. the 302r/boss302 intake may change that. if the stock cams are small theres more there. if they are already fr500 duration there's not as much there. 230 - 240 degree @ .050 .475" lift cams are screamers. The ti-vct will allow the average car to use them without bad idle/ part throttle behavior. the coyote optimized for 7500 rpms can make a lot of power. 500rw? probably not. but we'll see i guess.
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also head porting. is there room for more flow? well 37mm vales are not max. 39mm will fit great and not be as shrouded as a stock bore 4.6. theres more to be had, but who knows how much. i dont think theres 75rwhp to be had in heads/cams. the 302r/boss302 intake may change that. if the stock cams are small theres more there. if they are already fr500 duration there's not as much there. 230 - 240 degree @ .050 .475" lift cams are screamers. The ti-vct will allow the average car to use them without bad idle/ part throttle behavior. the coyote optimized for 7500 rpms can make a lot of power. 500rw? probably not. but we'll see i guess.
IMO.
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BTW most of you will not know that the cams on modular engines can be changed with only removal of the valve covers. there are tools to secure the chains. ive done it plenty of times on the 4.6 2v, and 5.4 3v. the coyote uses indexing dowels like 3v motors, so chaging them is a breeze. who cares about cost.
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BTW most of you will not know that the cams on modular engines can be changed with only removal of the valve covers. there are tools to secure the chains. ive done it plenty of times on the 4.6 2v, and 5.4 3v. the coyote uses indexing dowels like 3v motors, so chaging them is a breeze. who cares about cost.
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