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Test Data Comparo - LS3 Camaro SS vs 5.0 Mustang GT

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Old 05-05-2010, 11:38 AM
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typical price for 4v cams is 1200.00 - 1400.00. the new factory setup will not require new springs unless the opening rates of the cams too high. the factory springs are already used for .475in/.450ex lift at 7000 rpm. those of us who do this all the time will hardly care how much they cost.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
ive said before i think the bolt on limit is 415-425 rwhp. nobody knows the stock cam specs. the cams really matter.

also head porting. is there room for more flow? well 37mm vales are not max. 39mm will fit great and not be as shrouded as a stock bore 4.6. theres more to be had, but who knows how much. i dont think theres 75rwhp to be had in heads/cams. the 302r/boss302 intake may change that. if the stock cams are small theres more there. if they are already fr500 duration there's not as much there. 230 - 240 degree @ .050 .475" lift cams are screamers. The ti-vct will allow the average car to use them without bad idle/ part throttle behavior. the coyote optimized for 7500 rpms can make a lot of power. 500rw? probably not. but we'll see i guess.

IMO.
Given the 405rwhp output w/ just the X-pipe, exhaust, and drop-in, I would definitely expect no less than 425rwhp once LTs and a good intake are added. And since it's been shown that's more then enough to get into the 11s with traction, that's not too bad at all.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
that only applies to people who dont do their own work.
True
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who cares about cost.
Originally Posted by assasinator
those of us who do this all the time will hardly care how much they cost.
Really? You don't care about cost/prices at all?
If that's true then I'd like to sell you a new Mustang GT for a mere $65,000.00 ...deal?
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Really? You don't care about cost/prices at all?
If that's true then I'd like to sell you a new Mustang GT for a mere $65,000.00 ...deal?
cam cost. the added performance is worth it. u kinda picked it out of context eh?
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Originally Posted by assasinator
cam cost. the added performance is worth it. u kinda picked it out of context eh?
Do you plan on staying NA with your new GT?
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Evolution Performance's GT just dipped into the 11's. Control arms, aftermarket air filter, O/R X pipe, aftermarket clutch, tires, and some good tuning.

11.98 @ 117MPH with a 1.67 60ft
11.85 @ 117MPH with a 1.64 60ft
11.82 @ 118MPH with a 1.63 60ft

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Thats incredible.
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Opps repost my bad! Just saw this on another forum...
This is from Evo's facebook page this morning:

First 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V in The 11's!
11.98 @ 117MPH with a 1.67 60ft
11.85 @ 117MPH with a 1.64 60ft
11.82 @ 118MPH with a 1.63 60ft
All three runs were done within 24 minutes, these are real world numbers! Videos will be posted later tonight!

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Very nice, I knew it was coming but didn't think they would get it done this quickly.



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All three runs were done within 24 minutes, these are real world numbers!
That's cool that it was done while being somewhat hotlapped but honestly, I'd still be even more impressed with say the 11.7 that likely would've come after the car had sat and cooled for a bit versus going for that 'real world' hotlapping bragging right. I mean some (though not necessarily me) might even argue that delicate/lightweight Bogart rims (many have smashed them just driving on the street), drag slicks, skinnies and no cats isn't exactly "real world" anyway but regardless that is flyin'.
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Originally Posted by ThisBlood147
Evolution Performance's GT just dipped into the 11's. Control arms, aftermarket air filter, O/R X pipe, aftermarket clutch, tires, and some good tuning.

11.98 @ 117MPH with a 1.67 60ft
11.85 @ 117MPH with a 1.64 60ft
11.82 @ 118MPH with a 1.63 60ft

Wow, think I am almost sold.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I mean some (though not necessarily me) might even argue that delicate/lightweight Bogart rims, drag slicks, skinnies and no cats isn't exactly "real world" anyway.
True it isn't a street setup (they did use slicks IIRC), but there aren't any big power adding mods in there.......just the mid-pipe, filter, and tuning. Kinda makes me wonder what the point of the GT500 is anymore.

Besides, it's a stock factory motor powered Mustang running 11's without the aid of nitrous or a blower............it might as well be a florescent unicorn running down the street shitting leprechauns.
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PFFFTT, wouldn't be **** without a blower.




Oh, wait a minute, it doesn't have a blower
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Originally Posted by Heater
PFFFTT, wouldn't be **** without a blower.




Oh, wait a minute, it doesn't have a blower




2011+ Mustang GT = the new LS1 F-body?
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Do you plan on staying NA with your new GT?
yeah im good with how much power it makes with filter, exhaust and tune. not trying to be king.


there's a chance ill add cams.
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Originally Posted by assasinator
yeah im good with how much power it makes with filter, exhaust and tune. not trying to be king.


there's a chance ill add cams.
All 20 of them?
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Originally Posted by 99-LS1-SS
All 20 of them?
changing cams in a modular is easier than your LS i bet. i pull the valve covers, insert an AFM cam tool. remove the cam bolt. compress the mid chain, remove the rockers, remove the cam caps. slide the cams from the gears. reverse.

its simple and only takes a few hours per side. and i dont give a **** about the 1200 dollar cost. the labor is me and free. i build these things man.
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pretty good **** with these cars.

I haven't been following the 2010 Camaros but what's the best done w/ a stock car and some DRs, or minor mods like the Evolution 5.0?
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Originally Posted by ThisBlood147
............it might as well be a florescent unicorn running down the street shitting leprechauns.
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Originally Posted by Torque Fiend
I haven't been following the 2010 Camaros but what's the best done w/ a stock car and some DRs, or minor mods like the Evolution 5.0?
If I recall they've gone 12.5s bone stock and well into the 11s with full bolt ons.
Not sure about the 'stock with only drag radials' time though.


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