Official ZL1 Power Figure and Other Details Released
09-11-2011, 11:45 PM
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4200lbs seems a bit too high for the changes they made. Other sources are saying there are no official weight figures just yet.
Car and driver: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...80_hp-car_news
"Development is not yet complete, so there are no weight, acceleration, top-speed, or gas-mileage figures to share."
If it IS 4200lbs, then GM made another mistake with the Camaro in my book. JMO.
A car should only weigh over 3700lbs if it has some serious equipment and luxury and has 4 doors in my opinion.
Car and driver: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...80_hp-car_news
"Development is not yet complete, so there are no weight, acceleration, top-speed, or gas-mileage figures to share."
If it IS 4200lbs, then GM made another mistake with the Camaro in my book. JMO.
A car should only weigh over 3700lbs if it has some serious equipment and luxury and has 4 doors in my opinion.
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09-11-2011, 11:47 PM
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I don't know if they will ever offer the GT500 as an automatic... they are really focusing on making it a track machine (the kind with turns), and an automatic not only lets even more "posers" on the bandwagon, but the image would be tarnished as well. Do you think the C6Z should be offered with an automatic?
09-12-2011, 08:47 AM
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I don't know if they will ever offer the GT500 as an automatic... they are really focusing on making it a track machine (the kind with turns), and an automatic not only lets even more "posers" on the bandwagon, but the image would be tarnished as well. Do you think the C6Z should be offered with an automatic?
Even GM's torque converter automatic, the 6L90 has proven to be quicker than an M6.
The CTS-V is perfect proof of this.
I prefer a manual, but there is no denying that the auto (in some form or another) is taking over the performance world.
09-12-2011, 09:26 AM
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4200lbs seems a bit too high for the changes they made. Other sources are saying there are no official weight figures just yet.
Car and driver: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...80_hp-car_news
"Development is not yet complete, so there are no weight, acceleration, top-speed, or gas-mileage figures to share."
If it IS 4200lbs, then GM made another mistake with the Camaro in my book. JMO.
A car should only weigh over 3700lbs if it has some serious equipment and luxury and has 4 doors in my opinion.
Car and driver: http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car...80_hp-car_news
"Development is not yet complete, so there are no weight, acceleration, top-speed, or gas-mileage figures to share."
If it IS 4200lbs, then GM made another mistake with the Camaro in my book. JMO.
A car should only weigh over 3700lbs if it has some serious equipment and luxury and has 4 doors in my opinion.
09-12-2011, 02:39 PM
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I don't know if they will ever offer the GT500 as an automatic... they are really focusing on making it a track machine (the kind with turns), and an automatic not only lets even more "posers" on the bandwagon, but the image would be tarnished as well. Do you think the C6Z should be offered with an automatic?
Also, there are a LOT of people who are just complete posers that will choose a Manual over an Automatic no matter what the situation is. Most of the time, those are the same idiots who know nothing and are always bashing the Auto guys.
09-12-2011, 03:55 PM
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God whats wrong with some of you people...
Everyone is essentially saying:
"Fastest Camaro Ever? Not impressed..."
seriously...wtf lol
It could be lighter, sure...but then again, it's still going to be the fastest Camaro ever built...who cares what it weighs? A couple thousand dollars will yield over 600hp...not good enough for you? Get a new hobby IMO...
How is the fastest production Camaro ever made a disappointment? Because it could be faster? I'm pretty sure every Camaro ever made could have been faster/lighter...no exceptions.
IMO If you want cars that are absolutely tapped out on potential with every last hp rung out of it, every last nut, bolt, screw, and body panel made leightweight then you'd be complaining about the price. Camaros are mainly supposed to go fast in a straight line, and handling is second. This thing is going to trap 11's, at probably over 120mph...a few bolt ons and you'll need a roll cage to run it at an NHRA track, and yet, the car will have GM's most advance handling system as well...what isnt to love?
Everyone is essentially saying:
"Fastest Camaro Ever? Not impressed..."
seriously...wtf lol
It could be lighter, sure...but then again, it's still going to be the fastest Camaro ever built...who cares what it weighs? A couple thousand dollars will yield over 600hp...not good enough for you? Get a new hobby IMO...
How is the fastest production Camaro ever made a disappointment? Because it could be faster? I'm pretty sure every Camaro ever made could have been faster/lighter...no exceptions.
IMO If you want cars that are absolutely tapped out on potential with every last hp rung out of it, every last nut, bolt, screw, and body panel made leightweight then you'd be complaining about the price. Camaros are mainly supposed to go fast in a straight line, and handling is second. This thing is going to trap 11's, at probably over 120mph...a few bolt ons and you'll need a roll cage to run it at an NHRA track, and yet, the car will have GM's most advance handling system as well...what isnt to love?
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09-12-2011, 04:45 PM
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People that like DRIVING cars like cars that don't feel and drive like tanks. I don't care how fast this car is in a straight line, it simply weighs too much for me. My old Mustang was heavier than I would like, and it was WAY lighter than this.
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Found this 24hr torture test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYDtt...layer_embedded
"The most advanced, highest performance Camaro ever.
To confirm the track readiness of the most powerful production Camaro ever, the 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1, performance engineers recently conducted a 24-hour extreme track test on the grueling Milford Road Course located on GM's Proving Grounds in Milford, Michigan.
The 2012 Camaro ZL1 offers Performance Traction Management (PTM) as standard equipment, which is exclusive to General Motors. It was initially introduced on the Corvette ZR1.
Novice drivers will find the ZL1 very enjoyable to drive, while expert drivers will find PTM supplements their driving skill without interfering with their intentions."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYDtt...layer_embedded
"The most advanced, highest performance Camaro ever.
To confirm the track readiness of the most powerful production Camaro ever, the 2012 Chevy Camaro ZL1, performance engineers recently conducted a 24-hour extreme track test on the grueling Milford Road Course located on GM's Proving Grounds in Milford, Michigan.
The 2012 Camaro ZL1 offers Performance Traction Management (PTM) as standard equipment, which is exclusive to General Motors. It was initially introduced on the Corvette ZR1.
Novice drivers will find the ZL1 very enjoyable to drive, while expert drivers will find PTM supplements their driving skill without interfering with their intentions."
09-12-2011, 06:54 PM
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God whats wrong with some of you people...
Everyone is essentially saying:
"Fastest Camaro Ever? Not impressed..."
seriously...wtf lol
It could be lighter, sure...but then again, it's still going to be the fastest Camaro ever built...who cares what it weighs? A couple thousand dollars will yield over 600hp...not good enough for you? Get a new hobby IMO...
How is the fastest production Camaro ever made a disappointment? Because it could be faster? I'm pretty sure every Camaro ever made could have been faster/lighter...no exceptions.
IMO If you want cars that are absolutely tapped out on potential with every last hp rung out of it, every last nut, bolt, screw, and body panel made leightweight then you'd be complaining about the price. Camaros are mainly supposed to go fast in a straight line, and handling is second. This thing is going to trap 11's, at probably over 120mph...a few bolt ons and you'll need a roll cage to run it at an NHRA track, and yet, the car will have GM's most advance handling system as well...what isnt to love?
Everyone is essentially saying:
"Fastest Camaro Ever? Not impressed..."
seriously...wtf lol
It could be lighter, sure...but then again, it's still going to be the fastest Camaro ever built...who cares what it weighs? A couple thousand dollars will yield over 600hp...not good enough for you? Get a new hobby IMO...
How is the fastest production Camaro ever made a disappointment? Because it could be faster? I'm pretty sure every Camaro ever made could have been faster/lighter...no exceptions.
IMO If you want cars that are absolutely tapped out on potential with every last hp rung out of it, every last nut, bolt, screw, and body panel made leightweight then you'd be complaining about the price. Camaros are mainly supposed to go fast in a straight line, and handling is second. This thing is going to trap 11's, at probably over 120mph...a few bolt ons and you'll need a roll cage to run it at an NHRA track, and yet, the car will have GM's most advance handling system as well...what isnt to love?
Tech should have a "like" button like they do on Facebook.
Great post!
my truck weights a bit more!! 
09-12-2011, 08:07 PM
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A performance car is a performance car regardless of the transmission, IMO.
Also, there are a LOT of people who are just complete posers that will choose a Manual over an Automatic no matter what the situation is. Most of the time, those are the same idiots who know nothing and are always bashing the Auto guys.
Also, there are a LOT of people who are just complete posers that will choose a Manual over an Automatic no matter what the situation is. Most of the time, those are the same idiots who know nothing and are always bashing the Auto guys.
God whats wrong with some of you people...
Everyone is essentially saying:
"Fastest Camaro Ever? Not impressed..."
seriously...wtf lol
It could be lighter, sure...but then again, it's still going to be the fastest Camaro ever built...who cares what it weighs? A couple thousand dollars will yield over 600hp...not good enough for you? Get a new hobby IMO...
How is the fastest production Camaro ever made a disappointment? Because it could be faster? I'm pretty sure every Camaro ever made could have been faster/lighter...no exceptions.
IMO If you want cars that are absolutely tapped out on potential with every last hp rung out of it, every last nut, bolt, screw, and body panel made leightweight then you'd be complaining about the price. Camaros are mainly supposed to go fast in a straight line, and handling is second. This thing is going to trap 11's, at probably over 120mph...a few bolt ons and you'll need a roll cage to run it at an NHRA track, and yet, the car will have GM's most advance handling system as well...what isnt to love?
Everyone is essentially saying:
"Fastest Camaro Ever? Not impressed..."
seriously...wtf lol
It could be lighter, sure...but then again, it's still going to be the fastest Camaro ever built...who cares what it weighs? A couple thousand dollars will yield over 600hp...not good enough for you? Get a new hobby IMO...
How is the fastest production Camaro ever made a disappointment? Because it could be faster? I'm pretty sure every Camaro ever made could have been faster/lighter...no exceptions.
IMO If you want cars that are absolutely tapped out on potential with every last hp rung out of it, every last nut, bolt, screw, and body panel made leightweight then you'd be complaining about the price. Camaros are mainly supposed to go fast in a straight line, and handling is second. This thing is going to trap 11's, at probably over 120mph...a few bolt ons and you'll need a roll cage to run it at an NHRA track, and yet, the car will have GM's most advance handling system as well...what isnt to love?
09-12-2011, 08:13 PM
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With everybody talking about automatics and stalls and launch control, I don't want to see anything else talking **** about the GT-R "driving itself." That would be the definition of hypocrisy.