ULTIMATEORANGESS

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if youre referring to mastertomos i think he was talking about 5th gens.

Irunelevens

And as usual, right over your head...

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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are you a dick in real life or just online?

Irunelevens

I treat people with the amount of respect I feel that they command.

ULTIMATEORANGESS

iTrader: (4)

the answer would be "yes".

Irunelevens

If that is the way you feel, so be it.

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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i was trying to be civil and of course you had to start ****.


if thats how you want it, so be it.

MasterTomos

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The people who care about handling and heatsoak. The current 5th gen SS outhandles GT500's let alone the new ZL1 which will be nothing but better in every way suspensionwise... (07-09 anyway, not sure if theyve made any dramatic changes to the 2010+ GT500 suspension/handling?)

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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do 5th gens outhandle gt500s?

Irunelevens

The '10 GT500 had some pretty important changes, and the '11 had a couple as well.

It'llrun

I was going to ask if you're just as stupid in real life, but I know YOU don't know the correct answer... and I do....

DoggyB22

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ZR1 hits the ring for more testing! A very unique 2012 Camaro ZL1 will be auctioned off at the Barrett-Jackson auction in Las Vegas this Saturday (Sept. 24). This Camaro will be the only ZL1 produced in Carbon Flash Metallic. It will also feature a VIN honoring the original ZL1s - ending in 00069.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjy7v...layer_embedded

It'llrun

In the video, at about 28 seconds, you can see what looks like a 911 of some sort giving chase... heh. Then, at around 44 seconds, you can hear what clearly sounds like an automatic shift. You can hear that again around 53 seconds... Then, around 1:01, you can hear a downshift, much like a manual... Same car? If so, someone almost has to be manually shifting, or the transmission and ECM are VERY good friends!

ULTIMATEORANGESS

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and i was wondering how big of an Ahole you are and how many people hate you.

but i have a pretty good idea. loser.

mac62989

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That thing is sexy!

DiscerningZ32

No, they don't.

The gt500 is much quicker than the 5th gen on EVERY track where the two went head to head.

MI-Z/28

Umm, what?

Hell no. The new BOSS hands the 5th gen its *** on a road course and the GT500 has proven to be a couple seconds quicker than the BOSS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr3Sw...layer_embedded

MasterTomos

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for what it's worth, on topgear's track the SS put down better numbers than the '07 gt500.

mac62989

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^Ya but I dont even keep up on my Ford news and I know they have changed alot since 07

MasterTomos

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I'm certain that 07-09 where identical in suspension in the Gt500's. The 2010+ are still solid rear axel.

I dont know the exact changes to the 2010+ model, but I know it wasn't anything major as far as suspension, they still run solid axel.

What info do you have on the comparison between the GT500 and the boss?

The 2010 Camaro SS ran a 1:27.9 and the '07 body style Gt500 ran a 1:30.0 on topgear with an F1 driver behind the wheel on topgears track.

Also for those of you who don't know, the '12 V8 camaros (both ZL1 and SS) have completely revised FE4 suspenion different from to the '10 and '11 models. While the SS was beating the 07-09 GT500, and likely keeping up with the 10+ model in the corners, the new '12 ZL1 should definately give the GT500 a run for it's money in the curves, if not beat it.

Does anyone have roadcourse info/videos or something of a Camaro SS and a 2010+ GT500? I'd be very curious to see it. I think these cars are closer than people give credit to or want to believe. As put in my first post tho, I am not certain of the exact changes in the 2010 Gt500.