Nearly Full specs of the ZL1 available
10-24-2011, 08:23 PM
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The Nissan GT-R weighs significantly more than its competition, yet still manages to compete because of its various technological enhancements.
The ZL1 is, in all likeliness, a better car than the GT500. However, I'm sure when the magazines do the inevitable comparison tests, they'll gripe about the Camaro's interior and put it in 2nd place because of that.
The ZL1 is, in all likeliness, a better car than the GT500. However, I'm sure when the magazines do the inevitable comparison tests, they'll gripe about the Camaro's interior and put it in 2nd place because of that.
10-24-2011, 08:36 PM
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The ZL1 might be quicker than the gt500 now, but lets not forget that they're coming out with an updated one very soon.
The updated gt500 will likely be quicker if they fit some decent tires on it for once.
The updated gt500 will likely be quicker if they fit some decent tires on it for once.
10-24-2011, 08:38 PM
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GM is already stepping on their own toes by building this car to this performance level. Out performing corvettes is a no-no, and also this car with a few bolt on will need a roll cage for NHRA 1/4 mile runs...
I suspect this car wont feel like a 4,000 lb car when you're behind the wheel. Weight is just another number too, so apparently Im not the only one that is concerned about numbers.
I suspect this car wont feel like a 4,000 lb car when you're behind the wheel. Weight is just another number too, so apparently Im not the only one that is concerned about numbers.
10-24-2011, 08:42 PM
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10-24-2011, 08:54 PM
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dude this car is awesome..have your seen the Nurinburg times!!!!??...the Ford GT was ONLY 1 second faster!..this is one those cases where the weight is not that big of a factor..since it's able to put down some sweet times..and what you want to bet it will be putting a hurting on the lighter GT500's at the drag strip stock for stock...if the the GT500 has about the same HP and weighs less then why is Ford adding more HP to the new GT500?..because they are scared!..we all seen what happended with the 2010 SS vs the 2010 GT stang...Ford said we getting our asses spanked!..let's add more HP..and GM has been known to underate their engines..i would'nt doubt if the ZL1 has actually more like 600 flywheel hp..this car is here to make a statement..magnetic suspension, electric power steering and track times on the level of what many exotics put out!
10-24-2011, 08:57 PM
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dude this car is awesome..have your seen the Nurinburg times!!!!??...the Ford GT was ONLY 1 second faster!..this is one those cases where the weight is not that big of a factor..since it's able to put down some sweet times..and what you want to bet it will be putting a hurting on the lighter GT500's at the drag strip stock for stock...if the the GT500 has about the same HP and weighs less then why is Ford adding more HP to the new GT500?..because they are scared!..we all seen what happended with the 2010 SS vs the 2010 GT stang...Ford said we getting our asses spanked!..let's add more HP..and GM has been known to underate their engines..i would'nt doubt if the ZL1 has actually more like 600 flywheel hp..this car is here to make a statement..magnetic suspension, electric power steering and track times on the level of what many exotics put out!
10-24-2011, 09:15 PM
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The GT500 is already as quick as the Z06 on a couple tracks.
Only time will tell I suppose.
10-24-2011, 09:29 PM
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10-24-2011, 10:09 PM
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dude this car is awesome..have your seen the Nurinburg times!!!!??...the Ford GT was ONLY 1 second faster!..this is one those cases where the weight is not that big of a factor..since it's able to put down some sweet times..and what you want to bet it will be putting a hurting on the lighter GT500's at the drag strip stock for stock...if the the GT500 has about the same HP and weighs less then why is Ford adding more HP to the new GT500?..because they are scared!..we all seen what happended with the 2010 SS vs the 2010 GT stang...Ford said we getting our asses spanked!..let's add more HP..and GM has been known to underate their engines..i would'nt doubt if the ZL1 has actually more like 600 flywheel hp..this car is here to make a statement..magnetic suspension, electric power steering and track times on the level of what many exotics put out!
10-25-2011, 12:29 AM
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What is rodular ???
I am suprised they used this version of the M6. The car shouldn't need that much gearing.
Considering that my car is 4023 from the factory and all of that extra stuff is in the ZL1 that number is very impressive. The car is still heavy though. 
There is a lot of good here. Wish my car had some of the features the ZL1 will have.
Main bearing caps Rodular iron
TRANSMISSIONS
Gear ratios (:1): TREMEC TR6060 Six-Speed Manual
First 2.66
Second 1.78
Third 1.30
Fourth 1.00
Fifth 0.80
Sixth 0.63
Reverse 2.90
Final drive ratio 3.73
Gear ratios (:1): TREMEC TR6060 Six-Speed Manual
First 2.66
Second 1.78
Third 1.30
Fourth 1.00
Fifth 0.80
Sixth 0.63
Reverse 2.90
Final drive ratio 3.73
Curb weight (lb./kg) 4120 lbs.
There is a lot of good here.
Wish my car had some of the features the ZL1 will have. 
10-25-2011, 04:39 AM
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its heavy **** will probably get 15mpgs(realistically) but im pretty sure theyve said it will get more.
maybe you can buy a version w/o all the extra electrical crap like heated seats and the XL radio or what the hell ever it is.
and lighter seats, lighter wheels, full carbon fiber panels, etc.
id like to have one with a crap load of lighter replacement parts including the glass.
ill probably never be able to get one but i can dream of a perfect 5th gen.
maybe you can buy a version w/o all the extra electrical crap like heated seats and the XL radio or what the hell ever it is.
and lighter seats, lighter wheels, full carbon fiber panels, etc.
id like to have one with a crap load of lighter replacement parts including the glass.
ill probably never be able to get one but i can dream of a perfect 5th gen.
10-25-2011, 05:30 AM
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GT500 as good as the Z06?..you gotsta be shitting me right?...there are ppl hitting 10.9's on street tires COMPLETELY STOCK with the newer Z06's..there's no stock GT500's close to that..hell they barely run low 12's and that's with good drivers...and track times..if there are any that are remotely similar they have to simply be a fluke..the new vettes only weigh around 3,100lbs and have nearly a perfect distribution of weight from front to rear...the 2012 Zo6 ( on competition DOT tires) ran 7:19.63 around the Nurburgring..the next thing in line as far as 'FORD" wise is the Ford GT with a measly 7:40..the GT500 is nowhere close to that i assure you..what's even funnier is the ZL1 camaro just did the Nurburgring in 7:41..right on the heels of the Ford GT...FORD PFFFFFFFT!!!
-GT500 - 1:23.48
-ZR1 - 1:23.87
-Z06 Z07 - 1:24.28
-Grand Sport - 1:27.10
So it's really not that unimaginable.
You going to be ok???
10-25-2011, 09:36 AM
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I am pumped up that the ZL1 only weights 4120! I was seriously expecting a 4250 pig monster.
The ZL1 ran a 7:41 around the Ring driven by a GM engineer with a 100 pound roll cage and 30 pounds recording equipment. The ZL1 is absolutely insane.
There is no way the '13 GT500 will come close to the ZL1's 7:41 time.
Watch GM introduce a lightweight material/aero package for the '14 ZR1 and '14 ZL1. ZR2 and ZL2 FTW!
The ZL1 ran a 7:41 around the Ring driven by a GM engineer with a 100 pound roll cage and 30 pounds recording equipment. The ZL1 is absolutely insane.
There is no way the '13 GT500 will come close to the ZL1's 7:41 time.
Watch GM introduce a lightweight material/aero package for the '14 ZR1 and '14 ZL1. ZR2 and ZL2 FTW!