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Old 11-15-2011, 06:37 PM
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WTF are you talking about?
You could buy a fastback 302 with a 4 speed and a couple other options for $2,800 in 1968.
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Anyone seriously into racing isn't going to buy a $60K Mustang, unless they bleed blue and have deep pockets. Those cars will never be seen on the street. The ones you will find plenty of will be driven by the same guys you find behind the wheel of a new Corvette.
People who are serious in racing buy Corvettes, GT-Rs, and Lamborghinis...I'm pretty sure lots of enthusiasts are gonna buy it.
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You could buy a fastback 302 with a 4 speed and a couple other options for $2,800 in 1968.
Wheel of Fortune is on television right now. That doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about either . I guess my question to him went right over your head.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
Anyone seriously into racing isn't going to buy a $60K Mustang, unless they bleed blue and have deep pockets. Those cars will never be seen on the street. The ones you will find plenty of will be driven by the same guys you find behind the wheel of a new Corvette.
Promise they will sell everyone they make, and many will be raced.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
Anyone seriously into racing isn't going to buy a $60K Mustang, unless they bleed blue and have deep pockets. Those cars will never be seen on the street. The ones you will find plenty of will be driven by the same guys you find behind the wheel of a new Corvette.
This is a horrible generalization that isn't even close to being true. I'm assuming you've never even took a glance at SVTPerformance or any other major Mustang board? There are tons of people that race and modify their GT500's, just like the large group of people who race and modify their Corvette's.
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Both more then im willing to spend. I'll just put 20grand into the bird and be way faster lol.
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Originally Posted by TransAmWS.6
This is a horrible generalization that isn't even close to being true. I'm assuming you've never even took a glance at SVTPerformance or any other major Mustang board? There are tons of people that race and modify their GT500's, just like the large group of people who race and modify their Corvette's.
I just participated in a Corvette event, with nearly 1000 cars. Dozens of twin turbo cars, dozens of superchargers, god knows how many strokers... I think I saw 95% of the Corvettes there. I counted 8 cars on drag radials.

Call it a generalization if you want, I won't argue that. But to say it's not close to true? Look around... Most of the guys here that have built their cars did so second hand, especially the more expensive stuff like the Z06s.

Finally, I have no reason to troll Mustang sites. I've met more GT500 owners than you have posts. Having driven numerous GT500s (through 2010), C6Z06s, and the like. I can say in my experience the GT500 simply cannot make good use of the power it already has. This is backed up the the countless 13 second quarters I've seen from these cars.
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If you haven't driven any '11+ cars, your prior experience doesn't really mean anything. These cars are setup much better than previous iterations, hopefully you understand that.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
Anyone seriously into racing isn't going to buy a $60K Mustang, unless they bleed blue and have deep pockets. Those cars will never be seen on the street. The ones you will find plenty of will be driven by the same guys you find behind the wheel of a new Corvette.
This is a pretty ignornat statement. The audience for the GT500 will be no different than the ZL1. The prices of these cars is still well within reach for most educated professionals.
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yep that 2013 is gonna look good next to my kr.no garage queen here.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
I just participated in a Corvette event, with nearly 1000 cars. Dozens of twin turbo cars, dozens of superchargers, god knows how many strokers... I think I saw 95% of the Corvettes there. I counted 8 cars on drag radials.

Call it a generalization if you want, I won't argue that. But to say it's not close to true? Look around... Most of the guys here that have built their cars did so second hand, especially the more expensive stuff like the Z06s.

Finally, I have no reason to troll Mustang sites. I've met more GT500 owners than you have posts. Having driven numerous GT500s (through 2010), C6Z06s, and the like. I can say in my experience the GT500 simply cannot make good use of the power it already has. This is backed up the the countless 13 second quarters I've seen from these cars.
So you went around and checked the tires on 1000 cars? Just to prove a point that you knew you were going to have to make in the future? At what sounds like a cruise, not a drag track meet? Wow, you sure showed us! There are a lot of people that have run high 11s with stock tire 2011-12 GT500s, so even without drag radials they do just fine. And you are talking about the older GT500 with the iron block vs the what, 150lb lighter aluminum block in the new cars...that's a really good comparison right there!
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
I just participated in a Corvette event, with nearly 1000 cars. Dozens of twin turbo cars, dozens of superchargers, god knows how many strokers... I think I saw 95% of the Corvettes there. I counted 8 cars on drag radials.

Call it a generalization if you want, I won't argue that. But to say it's not close to true? Look around... Most of the guys here that have built their cars did so second hand, especially the more expensive stuff like the Z06s.

Finally, I have no reason to troll Mustang sites. I've met more GT500 owners than you have posts. Having driven numerous GT500s (through 2010), C6Z06s, and the like. I can say in my experience the GT500 simply cannot make good use of the power it already has. This is backed up the the countless 13 second quarters I've seen from these cars.
Drag radials are really meant for track use last time I checked. Lot's of people with high-powered cars have street wheel/tire combo's that they cruise around on when they're not at the track. So, that could have been part of the reason why you saw so many built Corvette's on street radials. Also, just because someone has the $$$ to get their car built by someone professionally means nothing, so I don't know what point you're trying to make with that.

Not sure what you mean by "simply cannot make good use of the power it already has", that doesn't even make sense. If you get a good tire on the car and someone who can drive decent, they can be very good performers and it's been proven.

Prime example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAKgviKzOjs
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^ That same guy has gotten all the way down to either 11.1x or 11.2x with the same setup. Damn impressive.
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Haven't read it all whats the price range like?
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Didn't say, but I can't imagine it going up too much from the current sub-$49k base price.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Didn't say, but I can't imagine it going up too much from the current sub-$49k base price.
It was VERY convenient for GM to announce the ZL1 pricing just as news of the GT500 surfaced. Checkmate!
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Originally Posted by TransAmWS.6
If I was looking for a new car --- Boom. It looks good and it is fast.
Thanks for the video!
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I like it!
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Well I guess if u get ur *** busted enough times by a "four door family sedan" u will learn to step ur game up lol
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My buddy was at a Ford dealer today pre-ordering one already in Sonic Blue. He has some connections because he has pre ordered every new design car for the past who knows how long including the most recent 2011 GT500 that will get traded in towards the 2013.

The GT500 will OWN the ZL1 in every way. And if you havent driven or been in a 2011 mustang of any trim model you have no room to talk about them, Ford stepped up the game big time and is kicking GM's ***.
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
And if you havent driven or been in a 2011 mustang of any trim model you have no room to talk about them, Ford stepped up the game big time and is kicking GM's ***.
Stepped up game= yes, minus some junk parts and some **** customer service regarding them (first hand experience, not mindless "I read on the interwebz" crap)

Kicking ***= yes and no, they aren't outselling and a lot of the 5th gen owners are doing well to keep up. Kinda like comparing Machs and n/a Cobras to the ls1s when both were new...*** kicking would be more like comparing a 99 GT to a 99 ls1.



And yet again, the ZL1 is competing with the 2012 GT500, not the '13. While it is likely in 2013 your statement will be true that "Ford is kicking GM's ***", it's pretty damn close right now.


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