Latch

iTrader: (8)

So you're saying this Toyota has good bang for the buck compared to brand new cars like the WRX and V6 Mustang, or used cars like F-bodies and Corvettes?

I disagree. Prove me wrong instead of attacking my car for being stock or being an 02, or whatever other nonsense.

Irunelevens

We are saying that there is more to it than "bang for the buck." And at the same time, illustrating that you agree. Hence, why you got the car you did.

mac62989

iTrader: (1)

This whole arguement is kind of retarded. Everyone bitches about new muscle cars weighing too much when they have serious power. Now everyone is bitching that this "light" car doesnt have enough power. Pretty much a perfect car that appeals to everyone will never exist. Am I excited over this Toyota? No, not in the least bit. I had an 04 Celica GTS. I believe the curb weight was around 2500 lbs and it was rated at 180ish hp. It revved up pretty damn high and the only difference was it was FWD. Honestly compared to my WS6 the only thing I liked more about it was that it was better in rain and easier to park. For this price range Id be interested in the new Golf R that is coming out in a few months. It has more power and is AWD. While not quite as light thats the best bang for the buck IMO. Everyone is going to like different things and have different reasons to justify what they bought or why they spent the money they did. No need for bickering.

Latch

iTrader: (8)

I bought a low mileage 02 because it's better bang for the buck from the perspective of needing a daily driver with no upkeep issues. If I had saved a grand or two and got an older car with more miles, I might have to spend MORE money replacing the alternator, starter, fuel pump, etc.

How does this have anything to do with discussing if this new Toyota is a good car or not?

Irunelevens

You were never talking about how good it was. You were talking about how your ten year old Camaro was faster.

gocartone

iTrader: (4)

How does your 10 year old Camaro being faster than a brand new Toyota with a warranty have anything to do with the discussion?

TransAmWS.6

Do you know how many little budget Honda street cars are out there that would walk your high 12 second Camaro?

Irunelevens

"But they need more work than me!"

Latch

iTrader: (8)

Right. Because I don't think it's a good car. One reason why is because there's a lot of faster cars out there for a lot less money.

Because they're both performance cars, one being clearly faster and cheaper than the other.

Yeah I've been beaten by a few. I would not however like to drive a gutted tin can to work everyday.

LS1LT1

iTrader: (16)

Ok, that (aftermarket modified/tuner version) is not bad looking at all, reminds me a bit of an early 240Z/260Z with an updated nose.




Not to mention it's 12.5:1 compression ratio and how 'boost unfriendly' that can be.

TriShield

I like the Subie version.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

Very very few would walk his camaro. There is'nt that many fast honda's.....can those 2 words even be used in the same sentence

Irunelevens

There are TONS of fast Hondas out there. Many of them are in the DC/VA/MD metro area.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

I guess it would depend on what you consider fast. But even the if 13's was fast there would'nt be a TON of them. There are 2 12sec Honda's in my town that I know of....and they are the fastes ones.

Irunelevens

10s/11s...maybe your town isn't the best place to look for examples.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

The list would get whittled down to almost nothing anywhere in the country for street trin hondas to run 10's. There's probally a few in the 11's.

You watch to much Fast and Furious.

Irunelevens

No, I pay attention. But you can think whatever you'd like.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

Appearenly you don't go to the track much.....I don't go alot but I have went and ran 3 times this year including once to MIR.....Guess what??? No 10 sec Honda's on any of those outings. There were a couple 11 sec **** boxes there, nothing nice.

Hell I do remember 2 11sec new VW's. They were pretty impressive because their cars were'nt ripped to peices like it takes most Honda's to get there.

Irunelevens

I forgot, you think that if it doesn't happen near you, it doesn't happen. Are 10s Hondas as common as 10s Fox Bodies? Of course not. But they are out there, and there are more of them than you think.

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

Hell 10 sec street driven fox bodies are'nt that common.....same goes for f-bodys. Hell I think I was the fastest ls f-body all 3 times at the track....and I don't run 10's . A 10sec street Honda would be like seeing a unicorn.