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Old 12-03-2011, 10:01 PM
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There's other cars besides old F-bodies and Corvettes I'd much rather have besides this thing.

How about a WRX or the new V6 Mustang... both are brand new cars around $25k, 4 seaters, with factory warranties.
Old 12-03-2011, 10:08 PM
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Other cars YOU would rather have. You seem to be unable to realize that there are people who do not think the way you do about cars.
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Here, this will make everyone happy if they follow through and make it a model vs an aftermarket kit (too bad it's a supercharger but better than nothing)-

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/260343/

280hp for this and price it around $28k and they would have a winner.
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Reviews are out on it now, near 2800lbs and a 54/46 weight split...that's not very impressive for a 200hp car. Everywhere says $25k for base price, but nothing on that is confirmed yet.

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"We saw an indicated 132 mph in the manual-transmission BRZ, and the 2.0-liter was still pulling. It seemed a long shot that it would make it to 143 mph, which is the estimated top speed an engineer gave us. On the other hand, a BRZ automatic couldn't pull past 128 mph, and that same engineer estimates it will make it to 137 mph – so perhaps the track was headed up a slight grade. The manual transmission car should be able to hit 60 mph in just under 7 seconds; the automatic just over"

That puts it at about a low 15sec 1/4 mile and it would be neck and neck with a Leaf to 60 They really need to come out with that supercharged (or a turbocharged) model, because that is just sad.
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it's a nice car but anything more than 20K for this car is to much IMO
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Yeah...

I don't see it stealing any potential Mazda Miata owners.

I can see it taking away some potential Scion Tc buyers, so there's that.

Hold on, Toyota makes the Scion Tc...


No, it looks like a decent car. I'm just not sure what market segment they're going for.
My guess would be the same as that for the V6 mustang, V6 camaro, Altima coupe, Civic Si, Scion Tc, etc.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Other cars YOU would rather have. You seem to be unable to realize that there are people who do not think the way you do about cars.
Certainly everyone has the right to buy the car THEY want to buy. And I will enjoy smoking this car in my 10 year old yank tank.
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Good for you. If that is what driving is about to you (light bolt-on, stock gear/stall...just guessing you have a limited view of "fun"), then have fun.
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Originally Posted by gocartone
Here, this will make everyone happy if they follow through and make it a model vs an aftermarket kit (too bad it's a supercharger but better than nothing)-

http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsAr...llCars/260343/

280hp for this and price it around $28k and they would have a winner.
Ehh even though that looks promising, I feel like itll be within the price range of a 370z, which Id rather have even with the boost in power.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Good for you. If that is what driving is about to you (light bolt-on, stock gear/stall...just guessing you have a limited view of "fun"), then have fun.
Yeah my nearly stock 10 year old car will drag the **** out of this brand new $25k "sports car." Always fun whooping brand new cars at the dragstrip that cost more than twice as much as mine.
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Originally Posted by Latch
Yeah my nearly stock 10 year old car will drag the **** out of this brand new $25k "sports car." Always fun whooping brand new cars at the dragstrip that cost more than twice as much as mine.
And there are Honda Civics out there that would drag the **** out of your car for 1/4 of what your car cost, does that make them better?
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Originally Posted by gocartone
And there are Honda Civics out there that would drag the **** out of your car for 1/4 of what your car cost, does that make them better?
With just intake and exhaust??
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Personally I think you wasted money getting an '02. Following your thought process, you should have just gotten a '98 and saved yourself a few thousand dollars.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Personally I think you wasted money getting an '02. Following your thought process, you should have just gotten a '98 and saved yourself a few thousand dollars.
So because you don't like that I'm so critical of this Toyota you've decided to just bash me and my car, I don't get it, does it make you feel better or something?

I haven't been hostile towards you sir. I have the right to my opinion about this car and you shouldn't get personally offended by it. Maybe you like it, but I don't, no need to get offended about it.

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Originally Posted by Latch
So because you don't like that I'm so critical of this Toyota you've decided to just bash me and my car, I don't get it, does it make you feel better or something?
Wow, that just went completely over your head...

Edit: Here, let me make it even more clear for you; you are critical of the car because it is newer and more expensive than your 10 year old Camaro. So following that logic, it would have been better for you to get a '98 instead of an '02, because then you would have an even older car that costs less than your car. Which, in your flawed logic, makes it a better buy.

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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Wow, that just went completely over your head...
No it didn't, I understand you're trying to be a pain in my *** for reasons I do not know. I don't like this new Toyota, I've stated my opinions without attacking anyone personally, so why the hostility dude?
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The fact that you perceive any hostility shows that you didn't understand what I said. I am trying to show you the flaw in your "bang for the buck" argument. I don't care if you don't like the car.
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So basically in a thread supposed to be about this Toyota, I'm forced to explain why I bought an 02 Camaro instead of a 98. Oh well, if you insist...

My car is my daily driver, not a weekend fun car. I was willing to sacrifice a little bit of cash to get a low mileage 02 that would have fewer upkeep issues to deal with than a higher mileage 98. I'm sure I could have gotten a 98 for cheaper but I found this car for sale, I wanted it, so I bought it. Could I have gotten a better deal? Probably. Would this Toyota be a better deal? Hell no.
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^Really?

Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The fact that you perceive any hostility shows that you didn't understand what I said. I am trying to show you the flaw in your "bang for the buck" argument. I don't care if you don't like the car.
Clearly his "bang for the buck" argument is only valid when he uses it.
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Originally Posted by gocartone
^Really?



Clearly his "bang for the buck" argument is only valid when he uses it.
Clearly. He bought a newer car, with fewer miles, for more money, for reasons other than speed...but yet he seems to be unable to make the connection. Glad I'm not the only one that sees the humor.


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