Revealed - Toyota FT-86 (Scion FR-S/Subaru BRZ in the US) RWD sports car
12-05-2011, 08:02 PM
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Wrong, open up your eyes. A good friend of mines has a nice EG hatch with a junkyard H22 that he daily drive's that's right up there with my car, doesn't have any major weight reduction or anything like that. It's not hard to have a fast street-driven Honda, you just have to know what you're working with.
12-06-2011, 04:12 PM
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what the hell? I can't tell if you're being serious or just trolling. If you've really only been to the track 3 times, you have absolutely no weight in deciding how many fast street cars are around you, or anywhere else in the world.
go look in the 10 second section, and tell me how many of those guys drive their cars on the street. probably 98% of them. As for fast honda's, there are a **** ton of them. Get out of that mountain village you live in.
EDIT: i would think for having a STREET CAR that runs 11.1's, you wouldn't be so dense about this subject.
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12-07-2011, 03:20 PM
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So would I. About damn time they came out with something like this.
Agreed
MK1 MR2s rock. I had an 86 and have a 88 SC. God they are FUN to drive and I would kill for an 85-86 in blue
Yes and that car was slow too in the straights. I never understood why they went for some much money. I had an orginal red one that I sold for a shitload of money. Boring car to drive
http://www.mk3.us/mike/gtspic.asp
Good post. I could never get into the 00-04 GTS cars too much...
You are correct. I know at least 10 around here that are daily drivers and they would clobber my Z. Popular car around here to mod
LOL at all of the people complaining about horsepower. Obviously this car isn't for you if you are complaining about horsepower. Its not my cup of tea but its a car meant for handling not going to the drag strip with.
And @DiscerningZ32 even if its power to weight is worse than a V6 Camry, its not fwd and would be significantly faster, and better handling due to better weight distribution and suspension.
And @DiscerningZ32 even if its power to weight is worse than a V6 Camry, its not fwd and would be significantly faster, and better handling due to better weight distribution and suspension.
MK1 MR2s rock. I had an 86 and have a 88 SC. God they are FUN to drive and I would kill for an 85-86 in blue
http://www.mk3.us/mike/gtspic.asp
This whole arguement is kind of retarded. Everyone bitches about new muscle cars weighing too much when they have serious power. Now everyone is bitching that this "light" car doesnt have enough power. Pretty much a perfect car that appeals to everyone will never exist. Am I excited over this Toyota? No, not in the least bit. I had an 04 Celica GTS. I believe the curb weight was around 2500 lbs and it was rated at 180ish hp. It revved up pretty damn high and the only difference was it was FWD. Honestly compared to my WS6 the only thing I liked more about it was that it was better in rain and easier to park. For this price range Id be interested in the new Golf R that is coming out in a few months. It has more power and is AWD. While not quite as light thats the best bang for the buck IMO. Everyone is going to like different things and have different reasons to justify what they bought or why they spent the money they did. No need for bickering.
You are correct. I know at least 10 around here that are daily drivers and they would clobber my Z. Popular car around here to mod
12-08-2011, 02:02 PM
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Lol @ the 10 sec car discussion here!
If this car was built for handling, then it would sport a better weight distribution than 54/46 fr/rr. Not saying it won't handle, but as a platform w/o hp (the biggest arguement on an LS1 site - go figure), handling should be the primary focus, and saying that, the car probably should have been built as close to 50/50 as possible.
Unless I'm missing something (it happens, lol)??
If this car was built for handling, then it would sport a better weight distribution than 54/46 fr/rr. Not saying it won't handle, but as a platform w/o hp (the biggest arguement on an LS1 site - go figure), handling should be the primary focus, and saying that, the car probably should have been built as close to 50/50 as possible.
Unless I'm missing something (it happens, lol)??
12-08-2011, 02:14 PM
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With the focus on moving as much weight as possible toward the center of the car, I imagine it will handle better than other cars with similar weight distribution.
12-08-2011, 02:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure this thread just made me dumber...especially reading anything this Latch character has posted. He sounds like an ignorant teenager who just got an Fbody.
This car is made to be light and fun, not a straight line monster. What is so hard to understand? I also think anyone comparing it to various superior used cars needs to be banned.
This car is made to be light and fun, not a straight line monster. What is so hard to understand? I also think anyone comparing it to various superior used cars needs to be banned.
12-08-2011, 03:11 PM
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Similar things happen when people compare dry weight numbers of 1000cc bikes to 600s. Yes they are not much different in dry weight anymore, but add fluids, and the fact that a 1000 carries a lot more weight higher in the frame, and you have a much different handling bike.
12-08-2011, 04:41 PM
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I'm pretty sure this thread just made me dumber...especially reading anything this Latch character has posted. He sounds like an ignorant teenager who just got an Fbody.
This car is made to be light and fun, not a straight line monster. What is so hard to understand? I also think anyone comparing it to various superior used cars needs to be banned.
This car is made to be light and fun, not a straight line monster. What is so hard to understand? I also think anyone comparing it to various superior used cars needs to be banned.
There, now how hard is that to understand?
