2013 Hyundai Genesis Gets More Power
01-14-2012, 12:01 AM
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The Genesis is fairly heavy. I think it weighs as much as the new Camaro, bordering on the 4,000 mark.
All these new cars are putting down impressive HP numbers, a lot are easily in the 300 and up range, but none of them have been able to match the LS1 for torque yet. Only the new V8's can produce more torque. The LS1 will hold its edge for a few more years.
All these new cars are putting down impressive HP numbers, a lot are easily in the 300 and up range, but none of them have been able to match the LS1 for torque yet. Only the new V8's can produce more torque. The LS1 will hold its edge for a few more years.
01-14-2012, 03:37 AM
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GM did make a car like it, the G8 GT. Then they killed Pontiac so there's only a somewhat limited number of used ones available.
There has been rumors of Chevy selling them but it hasn't materialized. The Lumina SS has a Chevy front end so it would be an easy transition to make it an Impala SS or whatever else they name it.
There has been rumors of Chevy selling them but it hasn't materialized. The Lumina SS has a Chevy front end so it would be an easy transition to make it an Impala SS or whatever else they name it.
I agree. 
That's pretty hot, hope it happens.
01-14-2012, 05:56 PM
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01-14-2012, 06:03 PM
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Uuuuuuuuuugggggglllllyyyyyy!!!!!!! And more questionable styling tweaks.
The 3.8-liter V6 in the Genesis coupe now makes 348 horsepower and 296 pound-feet of torque. The 2.0 turbo four model moves to 274 and 275 pound-feet. It also gets an eight-speed automatic transmission.
It still doesn't appear to be a threat to the American muscle cars in the power or looks departments.
The 3.8-liter V6 in the Genesis coupe now makes 348 horsepower and 296 pound-feet of torque. The 2.0 turbo four model moves to 274 and 275 pound-feet. It also gets an eight-speed automatic transmission.
It still doesn't appear to be a threat to the American muscle cars in the power or looks departments.
Uuuuuuuuggggggggggllllllllllyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!
01-14-2012, 06:13 PM
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01-14-2012, 09:14 PM
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This whole "buy American" mentality on here is stupid especially if buying American isn't exactly giving us what we want. What ever happened to the whole concept of Capitalist Darwinism. In order to survive, you need to make the best product available.
That's why I don't buy strictly American, Japanese or European, I buy what I like.
That's why I don't buy strictly American, Japanese or European, I buy what I like.
01-14-2012, 09:33 PM
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This whole "buy American" mentality on here is stupid especially if buying American isn't exactly giving us what we want. What ever happened to the whole concept of Capitalist Darwinism. In order to survive, you need to make the best product available.
That's why I don't buy strictly American, Japanese or European, I buy what I like.
That's why I don't buy strictly American, Japanese or European, I buy what I like.
Which is why I don't buy Japanese or European - I don't really like them
01-14-2012, 09:34 PM
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Back on topic - Car has good power and decent torque but not my cup of tea looks-wise. Also, I say bring it on with the competition only makes for more challenges.
01-14-2012, 09:47 PM
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This whole "buy American" mentality on here is stupid especially if buying American isn't exactly giving us what we want. What ever happened to the whole concept of Capitalist Darwinism. In order to survive, you need to make the best product available.
That's why I don't buy strictly American, Japanese or European, I buy what I like.
That's why I don't buy strictly American, Japanese or European, I buy what I like.
01-14-2012, 09:58 PM
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01-15-2012, 02:49 AM
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But I sort of look at it this way. If the CEOs of say, Ford and GM are Americans living in America then they have children/grandchildren (and someday great great grandchildren) also living/growing up/attending school/seeking employment here as well.
The decisions that these high ranking executives (and even the decisions that WE the consumers) make will have a direct effect on their own family/offspring.
Maybe I'm being naive but I have to trust that these guys do care at least a little bit about the long term societal fallout/effects of their corporate decisions and not just about lining their own (and their shareholder's) pockets.
I guess my (somewhat off topic and not entirely relevant) point is, they might ALL be crooks but which CEO do you think cares more about the nation that YOU live in?
So, should an American citizen support the CEOs of Toyota/Honda/BMW etc whose sole priorities might lie with/for the nation where their children/grandchildren likely live and go to school (Japan, Germany) or should I support the guy that might have his own flesh & blood living just a few hundred miles from me?
I could not agree more. Back in the prosperous post war '50s, '60s and '70s there were LOTS more of them too.
How ironic that back in the '50s, '60s and '70s Americans were also buying more GM, Ford and Chrysler vehicles than they do today as well.
Coincidence?
01-15-2012, 03:00 AM
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The best thing to do would be to buy from the company that is truly providing the best offering for your wants/needs. Supporting a company based on the country of origin doesn't help anyone in the long run. But if we had to pick, I would be hard-pressed to consciously decide to buy from a company that sends thousands of jobs overseas so the CEO can make an extra million dollars a year over the company that built multiple plants in this country. The stateside infrastructure of these "foreign" companies is incredibly dense and widespread. So the amount of money going overseas is probably less than you would think. I'm going to have to do a paper or project over this topic in the near future. I am an economics minor, after all.
01-15-2012, 03:13 AM
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Hyundai built some of the biggest pieces of **** cars since they yugo. Literally every car they made was junk. We owned a hyundai excell. My dad took it to a carwash and the thing died....literally. He pulled the plates off and left it there. So yeah I will say gaining hyundais trust back should be a big deal if anyone has ever owned one through 2006. Just a big head scratcher, thats all.
These are cars made as cheaply as possible for people to get themselves from point A to point B, that's it! NO FUN FACTOR INVOLVED! And The majority of the population belong in this crowd, that's why camry, civic, corolla are the high volume selling cars. People want no headache, and they'll think of a Fun Car has a baggage of some sort, unreliable and not realistic ect.
01-15-2012, 03:35 AM
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Of course not all of those 'other' markets act quite as free or open as ours does now do they?
But, if EVERYONE eventually buys from ONLY the likes of Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, BMW etc (be it from plants here or abroad) and GM and Ford are ultimately driven out, ya know what could happen then right?
The same exact damn thing that you all complain that happened in the '70s with the domestic nameplates...a bunch of fat, bloated, overconfident car companies that can produce/market any damn crap they want because YOU now no longer have a choice, you have to buy from them and pay whatever they ask for it (if you want a new vehicle that is). Your freedom to roam/ability to get to work controlled by a Japanese/Korean car company.
Can you even imagine our United States Armed Forces having to go to war with say, Korea or China while at the same time relying on a Korean or Chinese designed/built/serviced tank to deliver them to/from safety?
LOL 
The one thing in our favor this time around of course is that there will likely be more car companies in the market so that might just keep at least some of them on their toes in an attempt to stay competitive and not become just another '70s era Chrysler.
But hey, none of that could ever happen anyway, right?