ZL1 Tested vs BOSS
01-19-2012, 11:55 AM
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Lmao...when this car hadn't been tested/produced yet most everyone just talked **** and said the car was going to be junk. Now everyone is so surprised that it's a capable performer.
I think it definitely says something when even the track guys and testers are saying that horsepower "isn't everything" and that speed through corners is very important.
In order for the '13 GT500 to beat the ZL1 in the same way the ZL1 beat the LS Boss, The shelby will have to be 4-5 seconds faster than the LS boss. The boss LS is Fords new, purpose tuned track car that's made specifically for this kind of racing. A 2.5 second lead a lap is pretty much a bitch-slap. Do you guys think that they can/will make the GT500 3-5 seconds a lap faster than the current LS boss?
Keep in mind, the GT500 is on 285mm tires w/ 650hp and hundreds of pounds lighter than the ZL1, no cage like the LS, more nose weight than the Boss LS. IMO, I really dont think the GT500 will live up to the hype.
I stand by my original opinion that the 2013 GT500 and the ZL1 will be very close despite the HP and weight difference.
I think it definitely says something when even the track guys and testers are saying that horsepower "isn't everything" and that speed through corners is very important.
In order for the '13 GT500 to beat the ZL1 in the same way the ZL1 beat the LS Boss, The shelby will have to be 4-5 seconds faster than the LS boss. The boss LS is Fords new, purpose tuned track car that's made specifically for this kind of racing. A 2.5 second lead a lap is pretty much a bitch-slap. Do you guys think that they can/will make the GT500 3-5 seconds a lap faster than the current LS boss?
Keep in mind, the GT500 is on 285mm tires w/ 650hp and hundreds of pounds lighter than the ZL1, no cage like the LS, more nose weight than the Boss LS. IMO, I really dont think the GT500 will live up to the hype.
I stand by my original opinion that the 2013 GT500 and the ZL1 will be very close despite the HP and weight difference.
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01-19-2012, 12:07 PM
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They'll definitely be close around road courses, especially ones with the type of surface where IRS has a big advantage. Where they won't be close, is at the drag strip with both cars wearing dancing shoes.
01-19-2012, 12:18 PM
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Keep in mind, the GT500 is on 285mm tires w/ 650hp and hundreds of pounds lighter than the ZL1, no cage like the LS, more nose weight than the Boss LS. IMO, I really dont think the GT500 will live up to the hype.
I stand by my original opinion that the 2013 GT500 and the ZL1 will be very close despite the HP and weight difference.
I stand by my original opinion that the 2013 GT500 and the ZL1 will be very close despite the HP and weight difference.
01-19-2012, 12:21 PM
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Lmao...when this car hadn't been tested/produced yet most everyone just talked **** and said the car was going to be junk. Now everyone is so surprised that it's a capable performer.
I think it definitely says something when even the track guys and testers are saying that horsepower "isn't everything" and that speed through corners is very important.
In order for the '13 GT500 to beat the ZL1 in the same way the ZL1 beat the LS Boss, The shelby will have to be 4-5 seconds faster than the LS boss. The boss LS is Fords new, purpose tuned track car that's made specifically for this kind of racing. A 2.5 second lead a lap is pretty much a bitch-slap. Do you guys think that they can/will make the GT500 3-5 seconds a lap faster than the current LS boss?
Keep in mind, the GT500 is on 285mm tires w/ 650hp and hundreds of pounds lighter than the ZL1, no cage like the LS, more nose weight than the Boss LS. IMO, I really dont think the GT500 will live up to the hype.
I stand by my original opinion that the 2013 GT500 and the ZL1 will be very close despite the HP and weight difference.
I think it definitely says something when even the track guys and testers are saying that horsepower "isn't everything" and that speed through corners is very important.
In order for the '13 GT500 to beat the ZL1 in the same way the ZL1 beat the LS Boss, The shelby will have to be 4-5 seconds faster than the LS boss. The boss LS is Fords new, purpose tuned track car that's made specifically for this kind of racing. A 2.5 second lead a lap is pretty much a bitch-slap. Do you guys think that they can/will make the GT500 3-5 seconds a lap faster than the current LS boss?
Keep in mind, the GT500 is on 285mm tires w/ 650hp and hundreds of pounds lighter than the ZL1, no cage like the LS, more nose weight than the Boss LS. IMO, I really dont think the GT500 will live up to the hype.
I stand by my original opinion that the 2013 GT500 and the ZL1 will be very close despite the HP and weight difference.
The HP difference will be negligable when people start modding as well. I just read that the Zl1 blower puts out 9psi and the GT500 is up to 15psi. Im guessing with a simple pulley swap the ZL1 is going to be right there in terms of straight line performance. In terms of handling... the writing is on the wall.Another thing I was wondering- the ZL1 comes standard with the oil, transmission and rear-end cooler; how much do all those weigh (including the extra fluid)? If you buy the track pack for the 2013 GT500 (adding all the additional coolers) how much does that add to its curb weight?
01-19-2012, 01:00 PM
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The HP difference will be negligable when people start modding as well. I just read that the Zl1 blower puts out 9psi and the GT500 is up to 15psi. Im guessing with a simple pulley swap the ZL1 is going to be right there in terms of straight line performance. In terms of handling... the writing is on the wall.Another thing I was wondering- the ZL1 comes standard with the oil, transmission and rear-end cooler; how much do all those weigh (including the extra fluid)? If you buy the track pack for the 2013 GT500 (adding all the additional coolers) how much does that add to its curb weight?
01-19-2012, 01:58 PM
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EDIT: Does the ZR1 and ZL1 have the same shortblock? If so, we know its good to atleast 638.
01-19-2012, 03:18 PM
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01-19-2012, 04:26 PM
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Actually, look at the data they posted. Speed is about the same in all the corners, not nearly a big enough difference to say that with the same power to weight ratio the Camaro would still win. Either way, this vs 2012 GT500 is what I want to see before the 2013 comes out.
01-19-2012, 06:20 PM
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. Btw, where is Irunelevens? I've had my 
ready and waiting to hear what he'd come up with.
Don't speak like you know me. What you DON'T know about me I could just about squeeze into the Grand-******'-Canyon. Thank you. Now continue on your fanboy train.
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Lmao!!!! What the hell is that supposed to mean?! Welli can squeeze the Himalayas!
