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Old 01-19-2012, 06:58 PM
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does this seem like a descent estimate for a 2013 GT500?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4yv6...4&feature=plcp
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I guess there aren't a lot of Kevin Smith fans reading this thread.
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The thing about the gt500 all of the numbers have been est. all of the zl1 has been proven.
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They are estimates based off of what the current GT500 has already done. Not exactly a stretch.
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Thats true but its like bench racing, no one knows what its going to run. It could run better or it could run worse.
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I really doubt it's gonna be slower... If anything, those estimate numbers might be a bit conservative for both cars.
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The key with the 2013 GT500 is going to be if it can put 650hp down stock and if the suspension has been changed enough to make the controllable.

As everyone can probably tell the ZL1 was gone by GMPD to handle. We'll see what SVT did for 2013.
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Originally Posted by zz4camaro1980
EDIT: Does the ZR1 and ZL1 have the same shortblock? If so, we know its good to atleast 638.
Not exactly. The ZL1 and Cadillac CTS-V do share the same shortblock (same longblock and almost everything else under the hood as well for that matter) but the ZR1 steps it all up a notch.





Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
does this seem like a descent estimate for a 2013 GT500?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4yv6...4&feature=plcp
Yes, I could see it pretty much going that way for sure.
But the one big factor I still keep coming back to is the race between the bone stock automatic ZL1 and the bone stock 2013 (or especially the 2012 current) GT500.
We've all seen the results of poorly (or even average well) driven manual cars on the drag strip.
I myself have even beaten more than my fair share of '11.5 second capable' manual car with my low 12 second automatic.
But yes, in the 'manual 2012 ZL1 versus manual 2013 GT500' race with equal drivers in equal conditions, I certainly would not bet against the Mustang.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
If anything, those estimate numbers might be a bit conservative for both cars.
I agree 100%.
I'm going to predict that at least one (likely more than one) bone stock ZL1 will run in the 11s before 2012 comes to a close. I'm even guestimating that we will see one go an 11.7x in stock trim (tires and all).
But that also applies to the 2013 GT500 estimates as well. If that video extrapolated out an 11.7 for the car then I'm thinking that the potential for an 11.5 or even 11.4 might be there.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I myself have even beaten more than my fair share of '11.5 second capable' manual car with my low 12 second automatic.
But yes, in the 'manual 2012 ZL1 versus manual 2013 GT500' race with equal drivers in equal conditions, I certainly would not bet against the Mustang.
It's hard to compare numbers when talking a shitty driver vs a good one though, I watched a 2007 Z06 make a couple 14sec passes and never go faster than a low-mid 13 even after 10 or so passes at the track. That's a car that has run what a 10.8 bone stock to the tires with a great driver and track? So yes, I would put my money on an auto beating a bad manual driver, hell I'd put money on a V6 Mustang beating a GT500 if the driver was bad enough haha.

Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I agree 100%.
I'm going to predict that at least one (likely more than one) bone stock ZL1 will run in the 11s before 2012 comes to a close. I'm even guestimating that we will see one go an 11.7x in stock trim (tires and all).
But that also applies to the 2013 GT500 estimates as well. If that video extrapolated out an 11.7 for the car then I'm thinking that the potential for an 11.5 or even 11.4 might be there.
Fastest stock 2011-12 GT500s have gone 11.7XX, so I would hope the Camaro can get there. But add 100hp and better gearing to an 11.7XX car and I could see it pulling low-mid 11s with a great driver, mid-high 10s on slicks.
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Our bolt on z06 beat a 2010+ gt500.
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They had some undercover pics of the c7 but it had like leather ovet it. It looks like a lambo and a zr1 mixed looks bad ***.
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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
Our bolt on z06 beat a 2010+ gt500.
Originally Posted by JUSTINSWS6
They had some undercover pics of the c7 but it had like leather ovet it. It looks like a lambo and a zr1 mixed looks bad ***.
I have no idea how either of these posts have anything to do with what we are talking about
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Originally Posted by 1QWIKZ
funny how the tables have turned...camaro needs a blower to beat a mustang.
And beat it by a whopping 3/10's. (12.1 sec @ 117.4 mph ~ 12.4 sec @ 113.9 mph). No worries for the ZL1, the Shelby will only have 206 more HP than the Boss .
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O this isnt ordablas infintive bs thread my bad.
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Originally Posted by vetteboy99
Our bolt on z06 beat a 2010+ gt500.
yay your corvette beat a mustang!

cool story brah
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You guys do remember that the zl1 WAS NOT built to go against the 2013 gt500 right? With that said it did beat the gt500 it was built to compete with so it's a win for Chevy even though it weighs alot more so if it even comes close to the new gt500 which has even more power and still weighs less then I think thats saying something for a over weight under powered car to run that close to the new gt500.
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Originally Posted by firebird99
You guys do remember that the zl1 WAS NOT built to go against the 2013 gt500 right? With that said it did beat the gt500 it was built to compete with so it's a win for Chevy even though it weighs alot more so if it even comes close to the new gt500 which has even more power and still weighs less then I think thats saying something for a over weight under powered car to run that close to the new gt500.
The current GT500 has yet to be tested vs. a ZL1. And the rumor mill has been churning hard about this new GT500 for quite some time now. Chevy didn't go for the knockout blow with the ZL1 because they don't want to upstage the Corvette. Which will always be the Camaro's Achilles heel.
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As I would expect, the ZL1 outperformed the Boss. And it performed very well.

Not to discredit the ZL1 or the article, but the Boss has run quicker times than in the article on two occasions (base Boss and Boss LS), times which are also quicker than the ZL1's time. Just throwing it on the fire...


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