Chevy to prevail the Muscle Car War with the Z28?
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since Don Yenko passed in 1987 they should maybe make a special version for remembrance and kill the GT500 with that. i dont know why everyone is either going big cubes or slapping on superchargers. what happend to the guys with guts back in the day that made the decision to make a high revving car like the 302...just my .02
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Dear GM,
Please take the LSA out of the ZL1, drop in a hot cam LS3 making around 480 crank hp, get the curb weight down to around 3700lbs., offer it only in a 6 speed manual with 3.45, 3.90, and 4.33 final drive options to make up for the 28.5" stock tire height and call it the Z28. And offer a Recaro seat option like the Boss please. Do this and I will highly consider trading in or selling my 4th gen Z28 to buy one.
Thank you.
Please take the LSA out of the ZL1, drop in a hot cam LS3 making around 480 crank hp, get the curb weight down to around 3700lbs., offer it only in a 6 speed manual with 3.45, 3.90, and 4.33 final drive options to make up for the 28.5" stock tire height and call it the Z28. And offer a Recaro seat option like the Boss please. Do this and I will highly consider trading in or selling my 4th gen Z28 to buy one.
Thank you.
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I think it would be stupid to release a Z28 as a 5th gen with the 6th gen just around the corner. The ZL1 should have been the brute, and got the LS9. The Z28 was more focused on handling. I think they should lose some more weight, and drop in the LS7. People that are more focused on corners prefer N/A engines over boosted ones because they are more predictable. A nice bare bones, LS7 powered Z28 (with mag susp obviously) would rock the BOSS 302's world.
The Alpha Platform the ATS rides on is light, and with the ATS being "supposedly" under 3400lbs, and the 6th gen will share the same platform. Drop even more weight with a badass N/A engine in the 6th gen and it would be perfect. Ford has 3 main level V8 Mustangs, this would give a Camaro alternative for the GT, BOSS and GT500.
The Alpha Platform the ATS rides on is light, and with the ATS being "supposedly" under 3400lbs, and the 6th gen will share the same platform. Drop even more weight with a badass N/A engine in the 6th gen and it would be perfect. Ford has 3 main level V8 Mustangs, this would give a Camaro alternative for the GT, BOSS and GT500.
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Totally correct and it would be the way it should and has been . On another note being that the Boss 302 was a '69/'70 model year option . I think it
would be great if Ford stroked the Coyote and made a Boss 351 for 2014 before the redesign. Just a pipe dream of a Ford fan though..........
would be great if Ford stroked the Coyote and made a Boss 351 for 2014 before the redesign. Just a pipe dream of a Ford fan though..........
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I mean, not too many of them actually build cars that they hope don't sell well (relatively speaking/based on their projected production numbers etc.).
If GM really didn't care about enthusiasts at all then the Corvette probably would've been killed off back in the late C5 era (2003/2004) and we wouldn't have an SS or ZL1 when the V6 could've been plenty profitable all on it's own. Yes, they're also used as 'flagship' or 'banner' cars to increase showroom traffic and of course they'll only build the Corvette or Camaro if the cars can also sell, but that's called 'good business'.
Porsche does it. Ferrari does it. Even Bugatti wouldn't build the Veyron if it wouldn't sell.
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When you say enthusiast I assume you mean the performance enthusiast, because not all automotive enthusiasts care about 1/4mi, 0-60-0 times, lateral g's, etc. Trying to build a car for the performance enthusiasts is nearly impossible. Everyone wants something different. To cater to the performance enthusiast it's more important to have the support of a solid aftermarket IMO. GM and Ford have done a fantastic job with this. Even if GM built a 3400lb. Camaro with an LS7 under the hood the performance crowd would still find something to bitch about. Probably the price! Trying to please the performance enthusiast is like chasing a bunch of chickens around the yard and trying to catch them all at once. Not going to happen. IMO the best indicator of a well balanced vehicle is sales. That said I do think the 5th gen Camaro could decrease it's dimensions, lose some weight, and not negatively impact sales.
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Not really sure if that is the case......The same was said about the 5.4 L and the 4.6 L and they both have been stroked and poked . I would hope they didn't limit it being a new design and all.
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Actually I see a company offering a 351 kit. you have to sleeve the block.
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Concerning the drivetrain for a possible Z/28 .....Didn't i read somewhere that the LS7 was being phased out ? There hasn't been a power increase since it's inception and the Corvette is up to be the recipient for a new small block in it's next gen , correct ?? I'm thinking the LS3 has potential for higher output like Ford did with the Boss 302's 5.o liter engine.
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Dear GM,
Please take the LSA out of the ZL1, drop in a hot cam LS3 making around 480 crank hp, get the curb weight down to around 3700lbs., offer it only in a 6 speed manual with 3.45, 3.90, and 4.33 final drive options to make up for the 28.5" stock tire height and call it the Z28. And offer a Recaro seat option like the Boss please. Do this and I will highly consider trading in or selling my 4th gen Z28 to buy one.
Thank you.
Please take the LSA out of the ZL1, drop in a hot cam LS3 making around 480 crank hp, get the curb weight down to around 3700lbs., offer it only in a 6 speed manual with 3.45, 3.90, and 4.33 final drive options to make up for the 28.5" stock tire height and call it the Z28. And offer a Recaro seat option like the Boss please. Do this and I will highly consider trading in or selling my 4th gen Z28 to buy one.
Thank you.
what may happen if the corvette comes out soon'ish, they may take the engine tech from that plus suspension goodies and make it a Z28. it just makes sense.
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Nice, would be awesome if they put the old school "Z/28" badges on it and all that. This would be a great trim option for Chevrolet to put out if they want something to compete head to head against the Boss. I mean, they already have the ZL1 and SS for the base 5.0 and GT500, so it's only right that they put this out there, I think it would be pretty sweet.
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The Boss 302 was developed to do battle with the Z28 in the SCCA Trans Am road racing series and I suppose one could say that the Boss 429 came out do battle with the big block GM and Mopar Hemi cars on the drag strip...and also to help Ford homologate the 429 Hemi for NASCAR use as well I believe.