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Old 02-15-2012, 11:00 PM
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Default Chevy to prevail the Muscle Car War with the Z28?

Supposedly the Z28 is in the works not sure heres a link of some talk of the rumors. Put your input on this.

http://jalopnik.com/2013-chevy-camaro-z28/

I personally think GM should make the Z28 more of a pro touring type car. All carbon fiber like the ZR1 and put a high revving LS9 or a lightweight high rpm LSX engine. Better suspension, carbon ceramic brakes ect....
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GM needs to put the camaro on a diet!
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Originally Posted by jamal
GM needs to put the camaro on a diet!

agreed. thats basically free mods to run faster.
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since Don Yenko passed in 1987 they should maybe make a special version for remembrance and kill the GT500 with that. i dont know why everyone is either going big cubes or slapping on superchargers. what happend to the guys with guts back in the day that made the decision to make a high revving car like the 302...just my .02
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Would be SO SICK, if they put a high revving 5.3 in this car.

I really really hope they go original on this one, I'd buy one of these over a ZL-1 if they did it right.
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since Don Yenko passed in 1987 they should maybe make a special version for remembrance and kill the GT500 with that.
I think you mean "kill the Boss 302"?
The Camaro ZL1 is the obvious rival for the GT500, not the lower powered naturally aspirated Camaro models.

Camaro V6 versus Mustang V6
Camaro SS versus Mustang GT
Camaro Z28 versus Mustang Boss 302
Camaro ZL1 versus Mustang GT500

It would just make much more sense that way.
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Originally Posted by GTOSE
I really really hope they go original on this one, I'd buy one of these over a ZL-1 if they did it right.
I agree.
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GM NEEDS to wait til the alpha platform 6th gen to make the Z28. Less weight, they can use a high revving DI engine and magnetic suspension.
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+1 on the Yenko special edition, lighter, sleeker, faster
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i agree with djsanchez, didnt they already try out the alpha platform on a caddy, and it ended up being around 3400lbs? Id love to see a lightweight z28 go up against the current Boss 302
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^^^ ding ding ding!! Im am sure a Z28 camaro 6th gen with no real luxuries, CF parts to cut weight and lightweight forged wheels it could run 3250-3300lbs with a V8 and 6spd manual
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Originally Posted by Zlow28
didnt they already try out the alpha platform on a caddy, and it ended up being around 3400lbs?
Yes, the new Cadillac ATS is built on that platform and is just under 3400 pounds.
A Camaro V8 version built on that platform might come out slightly heavier (or maybe lighter if it has less luxurious content than the Cadillac) though.
For now though we can't count on that happening any time in the immediate future so I'd at least like to see a lighter version of the current SS. Perhaps with a high output/high revving 6.2L Direct Injection LS3 or similar to be called 'Z28' and sent out to do battle with the Boss 302.
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adding another capable performer to an already successful platform would be welcome. i hope it happens.
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Wow if they can get the weight down to ~3400lbs good bye mustangs.
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Originally Posted by whytryz28
Wow if they can get the weight down to ~3400lbs good bye mustangs.
Yup
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
Yes, the new Cadillac ATS is built on that platform and is just under 3400 pounds.
A Camaro V8 version built on that platform might come out slightly heavier (or maybe lighter if it has less luxurious content than the Cadillac) though.
For now though we can't count on that happening any time in the immediate future so I'd at least like to see a lighter version of the current SS. Perhaps with a high output/high revving 6.2L Direct Injection LS3 or similar to be called 'Z28' and sent out to do battle with the Boss 302.
I think a lot of GM people are being a little unreaslitic of the weight. I am sure the 3400lb ATS is the lightest model. ie 2.5l 4 cyl car. I promise you that a V8 with the requisite beefed up drivetrain parts, cooling systems, etc, will boost the weight by several hundread pounds, putting it inline with where the mustang is now (which will also reportedly get lighter and smaller for the next gen car).

Also, they are not going to surpass the performance of the Zl1. It will be slottted to compete with the Boss. Adding the items the OP mentioned (ls9, carbon brakes) would amke for a 80k camaro. Not going to happen..
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Z28 wish list:
- Alpha platform
- LS7 or to-be-released 5.5L/6.2L DI V8
- Magnetic Ride suspension
- make power windows/doors/seats & A/C OPTIONAL
- forged wheels (preferably smaller than 20")
- as many/much lightweight components as possible without pricing the car over $50K

Go.
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Originally Posted by whytryz28
Wow if they can get the weight down to ~3400lbs good bye mustangs.
^^^ this ^^^
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
I think you mean "kill the Boss 302"?
The Camaro ZL1 is the obvious rival for the GT500, not the lower powered naturally aspirated Camaro models.

Camaro V6 versus Mustang V6
Camaro SS versus Mustang GT
Camaro Z28 versus Mustang Boss 302
Camaro ZL1 versus Mustang GT500

It would just make much more sense that way.
Totally correct and it would be the way it should and has been . On another note being that the Boss 302 was a '69/'70 model year option . I think it
would be great if Ford stroked the Coyote and made a Boss 351 for 2014 before the redesign. Just a pipe dream of a Ford fan though..........
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Originally Posted by BLUE OVAL TURBO
On another note being that the Boss 302 was a '69/'70 model year option . I think it would be great if Ford stroked the Coyote and made a Boss 351 for 2014 before the redesign. Just a pipe dream of a Ford fan though..........
Yeah that larger '71 Boss 351 was also a pretty cool car, but I think the true legacy, glory and glamor of the Boss still lies within the '69/'70 cars and that's the 'flavor' or feel that the new/current one is going after I think.


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