ZL1 Wins overall vs new GT500
06-18-2012, 09:45 PM
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Flame me all you want...
But if I was to buy either, I think I'd still buy the GT-500. But would rather have the Boss 302 LS.
Got to drive one for the day and at the track and It has to be the best car Ford has produced in a VERY long time. First "Drivers" car the way it felt.
But if I was to buy either, I think I'd still buy the GT-500. But would rather have the Boss 302 LS.
Got to drive one for the day and at the track and It has to be the best car Ford has produced in a VERY long time. First "Drivers" car the way it felt.
06-18-2012, 09:48 PM
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Just curious what you meant by this, my FI knowledge is limited. So what you mean is that it takes more power to turn the 2.3 than the 1.9 correct? So would that mean the 1.9 can overcome the size advantage of the 2.3? Just not sure i am following you correctly.
an engine is nothing more than a big, hot, loud(preferably) air pump.
BTW..i'm not meaning to sound like a dick.......
06-18-2012, 10:02 PM
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ahh ok gotcha thanks for clarifying thought you were talking about actual part of the blowers. Would the old adage of "no replacement for displacement" be null here since these motors are FI? For example the Toyota 2JZ motor is known to easily break 1khp. Would .4L or i think its like 7percent really make that much of a difference?
06-18-2012, 10:05 PM
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ahh ok gotcha thanks for clarifying thought you were talking about actual part of the blowers. Would the old adage of "no replacement for displacement" be null here since these motors are FI? For example the Toyota 2JZ motor is known to easily break 1khp. Would .4L or i think its like 7percent really make that much of a difference?
remember.....the engine is just a biiig air pump. the more air it can move, the more hp it can make.
06-18-2012, 10:51 PM
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As for the ZR1 running those numbers in Neg. DA, I recently watched Brent (916 BREDWNR) run his bone-stock ZR1 to 11.1@130 in the 92* heat. His best DR-only time is 10.69 in +580ft. Some good negative DA plus the driver mod can get you mid to high 10s and 132-134 traps in those things. Crazy 
Stock C6 ZR1 with drag radials:
06-19-2012, 02:48 AM
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06-19-2012, 07:47 AM
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06-19-2012, 12:29 PM
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That smaller "air pump" also has four camshaft's and four valves per cylinder. Besides, the efficiency of the Eaton 2.3L is on an entirely different level compared to the smaller 1.9L, and easily negates the minimal 22 cu. in. advantage the LSA has over the 5.8L 4v.
06-19-2012, 01:06 PM
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06-19-2012, 01:48 PM
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lol this **** is funny as hell. the cars are close. ford stepped it up at the last minute and kinda caught gm with their pants down. lets see what gm does next id love to see them match the hp and beat them in a heavier car but right now that 13 gt 500 is no joke i love gm and ford but fords new power plants made this muscle car war closer which im all for. door to door racing is fun and im glad ford stepped it up now its gm's turn which is good for us because now we have faster cars to play with isn't that what its about anyway..... puppy kicking a 2v just wasn't very much fun.... what i wanna know is where the **** is dodge in all this, better strap a blower to that 392!!!
06-19-2012, 02:11 PM
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Nooo just not at as much of an disadvantage as some claim that's all. 
Not close at all. The Mustang has it beat by a good margin. Good being an understatement. lol
lol this **** is funny as hell. the cars are close. ford stepped it up at the last minute and kinda caught gm with their pants down. lets see what gm does next id love to see them match the hp and beat them in a heavier car but right now that 13 gt 500 is no joke i love gm and ford but fords new power plants made this muscle car war closer which im all for. door to door racing is fun and im glad ford stepped it up now its gm's turn which is good for us because now we have faster cars to play with isn't that what its about anyway..... puppy kicking a 2v just wasn't very much fun.... what i wanna know is where the **** is dodge in all this, better strap a blower to that 392!!!
06-19-2012, 02:50 PM
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lol this **** is funny as hell. the cars are close. ford stepped it up at the last minute and kinda caught gm with their pants down. lets see what gm does next id love to see them match the hp and beat them in a heavier car but right now that 13 gt 500 is no joke i love gm and ford but fords new power plants made this muscle car war closer which im all for. door to door racing is fun and im glad ford stepped it up now its gm's turn which is good for us because now we have faster cars to play with isn't that what its about anyway..... puppy kicking a 2v just wasn't very much fun.... what i wanna know is where the **** is dodge in all this, better strap a blower to that 392!!!
06-19-2012, 03:10 PM
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06-19-2012, 06:24 PM
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Yea maybe, but i honestly dont think in stock trim the GT500 has enough tire to surpass the ZL1 on the skid pad. The best we have seen is .98? to the ZL's 1.03(Insideline) Someone correct me if im wrong im just going off the top of my head. With an aftermarket set of wheels and tires i think it can def match or surpass a stock ZL on the skid pad. But i do recall the Ford engineers saying the reason they didnt go with the bigger tire in the rear was due to it causing the car to under steer.
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06-19-2012, 06:53 PM
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lol this **** is funny as hell. the cars are close. ford stepped it up at the last minute and kinda caught gm with their pants down. lets see what gm does next id love to see them match the hp and beat them in a heavier car but right now that 13 gt 500 is no joke i love gm and ford but fords new power plants made this muscle car war closer which im all for. door to door racing is fun and im glad ford stepped it up now its gm's turn which is good for us because now we have faster cars to play with isn't that what its about anyway..... puppy kicking a 2v just wasn't very much fun.... what i wanna know is where the **** is dodge in all this, better strap a blower to that 392!!!
06-19-2012, 06:57 PM
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Yea maybe, but i honestly dont think in stock trim the GT500 has enough tire to surpass the ZL1 on the skid pad. The best we have seen is .98? to the ZL's 1.03(Insideline) Someone correct me if im wrong im just going off the top of my head. With an aftermarket set of wheels and tires i think it can def match or surpass a stock ZL on the skid pad. But i do recall the Ford engineers saying the reason they didnt go with the bigger tire in the rear was due to it causing the car to under steer.
the skidpad isn't the end all\be all for handling. you need to get out on the track for that, like they did vs the boss302.
almost forgot......1.03 to .98.........miniscule difference. like truly not worth mentioning.