evolve

Car and Driver tests came out:

Basic Stats

500:ZL1
1/4 - 11.8@125:12.3@118
Top speed - 189:181
70-0 - 155ft:151ft
Skid - 1.0:.99

Grattan Raceway 2.2mi
Both 1:30.2


They still gave the win to the ZL1...

ULTIMATEORANGESS

iTrader: (4)

a 118 trap for a zl1 is respectable.

Sax1031

118 is definitely better

ULTIMATEORANGESS

iTrader: (4)

though i remember predicting a 120mph trap for this car.

evolve

Cooler weather should do it. The thing about this was they dynod the GT500 at 566rwhp. That is over 30rwhp lower than any other GT500 Ive seen, and Ive seen about 5-6. The ZL1 put down ~508rwhp.

gocartone

iTrader: (4)

That seems odd. I've only seen a couple GT500s under 600whp, while the ZL1 number is on the high side of what they are dynoing at.

MI-Z/28

Perfect! If I had the money I'd take two. One to mod and beat the ever living hell out of and the other to daily drive. GT500 gets my vote!

LS1LT1

iTrader: (16)

Curious where the Camaro 1LE will land in that one.

firebird99

iTrader: (2)

Do you have a link? Also they have a video on youtube of them doing a 12.1@119 fwiw

Also does anyone else feel that it's odd that the GT500 is 7mph faster in the quarter yet it's only 8mph in there top speed run?

firebird99

iTrader: (2)

I say 8:10

MeentSS02

iTrader: (11)

If you understood math, physics, and things like aerodynamics, it wouldn't seem odd at all.

-Ross-

iTrader: (2)

If you can't see that yourself, it's a waste of my time to explain it to you.

Also, I never said the ZL1 wasn't a great car. I just say the GT500 is better in almost every category that is important in my book.

The guys at Top Gear have that magnetic leader board for a reason...to show what cars they have tested are the FASTEST around their track. I highly doubt they give 2 ***** that an STI is "easier to drive" and more predictable than a ZR1.

Edmunds got a better lap time out of the GT500 than they did out of the ZL1. That's all that counts.

99.99 percent of stock ZL1/GT500 encounters will happen on the street and we all know what the outcome will be.

1ltcap

yea, 'cause they didn't take the shelby to its top speed.

MeentSS02

iTrader: (11)

Heated arguments based off of hard-copy and internet magazine articles where they said the ZL1 was clearly the better car, but wasn't?

-Ross-

iTrader: (2)

Haha.

firebird99

iTrader: (2)

Really then show me how a car the weighs 3-400 more with alot less power over comes all of that to only allow 1 mph increase after the 1320.
Didn't say it was the cars actual top speed just that its odd that it was on able to gain 1 mph after the first 1320.

1ltcap

that's what i mean. we already know that the shelby at least hits 196.

MeentSS02

iTrader: (11)

Aerodynamic drag increases as the square of speed, which tells us what?

firebird99

iTrader: (2)

No no....you want to call out me as stupid prove that the ZL1 aero dynamic advantage is superior enough to over come its weight and lack of Hp!!!!

MeentSS02

iTrader: (11)

I'm not calling you stupid, but I do think your comment shows that you have a fundamental lack of understanding of how the world around you works - hence why I like giving you crap about being a magazine racer, since that's what prompted this question.

This isn't a GT500 vs. ZL1 thing, this goes for any car - if the aerodynamic drag of a car increases as the square of speed, it would tell you that it takes a lot more power just to go a little bit faster when you reach speeds well into the triple digits; speeds that are much faster than you would normally achieve in the quarter mile.

Making a direct correlation between trap speed in a quarter mile race and a vehicle's top speed just doesn't work. Want proof? Play around with this calculator, and notice how fast the power requirements go up once you start getting up there in speed, and also notice how little effect the vehicle's weight has on things:

http://ecomodder.com/forum/tool-aero...resistance.php