Motor Trend Puts The ZL1 & GT500 to The Test!
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i fully understand they all build em all over the place. that doesn't mean i hafta like it though. wonder what kind of can o worms i'd open up if i said that i thought that NAFTA was the beginning of the end for this country.
that all said, what you guys are missing, is that i LIKE the camaro. i just happen to like the mustang a little better. that's a large part of why it pisses me off so badly that it's not built at home.....and that they went down under for the chassis. chevy's better than that.
that all said, what you guys are missing, is that i LIKE the camaro. i just happen to like the mustang a little better. that's a large part of why it pisses me off so badly that it's not built at home.....and that they went down under for the chassis. chevy's better than that.
Of course, that won't happen, just saying, your northern neighbour provides over 50% of your imported crude.
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ROTFL - NAFTA bad for U.S. Don't worry, we will just double the cost of your crude for a month and see how that makes you feel about gas at the pump and who can afford energy at that point.
Of course, that won't happen, just saying, your northern neighbour provides over 50% of your imported crude.
Of course, that won't happen, just saying, your northern neighbour provides over 50% of your imported crude.
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who friggin cares Harleys are assembled in the U.S and every part on em comes from all over the world , again who cares , our government likes it that way and that is the way it will stay, Mr. Obama will soon make sure the muscle cars and anything else that uses fossle fuel will be dead and gone. we can as they do in the third world walk ride a bicycle, or sit in our dark cave and rot for all he and his cronies care, get used to it cause the next 4 years will be the end of the automobiles as we know it, when the GM boys he bailed out get him re elected then the hammer will drop, 4 more years of nothing to stop him executive order one after another will kill this country just give him the 4 he needs he will take care of the rest for you
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who friggin cares Harleys are assembled in the U.S and every part on em comes from all over the world , again who cares , our government likes it that way and that is the way it will stay, Mr. Obama will soon make sure the muscle cars and anything else that uses fossle fuel will be dead and gone. we can as they do in the third world walk ride a bicycle, or sit in our dark cave and rot for all he and his cronies care, get used to it cause the next 4 years will be the end of the automobiles as we know it, when the GM boys he bailed out get him re elected then the hammer will drop, 4 more years of nothing to stop him executive order one after another will kill this country just give him the 4 he needs he will take care of the rest for you
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ROTFL - NAFTA bad for U.S. Don't worry, we will just double the cost of your crude for a month and see how that makes you feel about gas at the pump and who can afford energy at that point.
Of course, that won't happen, just saying, your northern neighbour provides over 50% of your imported crude.
Of course, that won't happen, just saying, your northern neighbour provides over 50% of your imported crude.
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that all said, what you guys are missing, is that i LIKE the camaro. i just happen to like the mustang a little better. that's a large part of why it pisses me off so badly that it's not built at home.....and that they went down under for the chassis. chevy's better than that.
As far as the chassis goes, what else were they supposed to do? They certainly didn't have the funding to develop a completely new chassis for just one car, and that would have taken even longer as well (think about how much more people would be bitching if it took even longer than it already did). Its a global chassis anyway (although mainly used in australia).
Its not like Ford didn't do the same, the s197 is based off an old Jaguar chassis...
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Im pretty sure just about everyone here doesn't like it either, but you were pointing fingers like they want to build them there and "don't care about US jobs", please do some damn research before posting.
The Fbody hasn't been built at home for quite some time now, not many people can do anything about it until the contract is up.
As far as the chassis goes, what else were they supposed to do? They certainly didn't have the funding to develop a completely new chassis for just one car, and that would have taken even longer as well (think about how much more people would be bitching if it took even longer than it already did). Its a global chassis anyway (although mainly used in australia).
Its not like Ford didn't do the same, the s197 is based off an old Jaguar chassis...
The Fbody hasn't been built at home for quite some time now, not many people can do anything about it until the contract is up.
As far as the chassis goes, what else were they supposed to do? They certainly didn't have the funding to develop a completely new chassis for just one car, and that would have taken even longer as well (think about how much more people would be bitching if it took even longer than it already did). Its a global chassis anyway (although mainly used in australia).
Its not like Ford didn't do the same, the s197 is based off an old Jaguar chassis...
so actually the s-type was based on a ford platform.
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You do realize you just contradicted your own post from about an hour earlier, right?
Also, you were right the first time. The S-Type, Thunderbird, and THE Lincoln LS all share the same chassis. Same power trains too in the case of the Tbird and LS.
Also, you were right the first time. The S-Type, Thunderbird, and THE Lincoln LS all share the same chassis. Same power trains too in the case of the Tbird and LS.
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but the chassis is different, and it also isn't a "global" chassis.
A less-expensive variant known as DEW Lite was originally to be used for the 2005 Ford Mustang, but the platform was significantly redesigned to become the Ford D2C platform instead.
Differences between D2C and DEW98 are most noticeable in the suspension: The DEW98-based Lincoln LS uses a 4-wheel independent double wishbone suspension. The D2C platform's MacPherson strut front suspension and solid axle rear suspension are less expensive to produce than DEW's more complicated setup.