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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 08:21 PM
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Wow. I'm blown away by those results. I thought the 1LE wouldn't have a fighting chance against the BOSS LS. Congrats GM.
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 08:22 PM
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this is a 5th gen i want right now!
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Old Aug 16, 2012 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ULTIMATEORANGESS
this is a 5th gen i want right now!
ME, TOO! And I could afford this one, as compared to the ZL1.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 05:51 AM
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dang. battle is on! i didn't think the 1LE would do that well
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 06:37 AM
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Awe come on guys..... there no way this thing could be the boss ls. That's just impossible. Wait till the ford swingers come in here. They will tell how it it is.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 07:30 AM
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It's all about the gears in the rear, if GM smartened up and stopped putting flat highway gear ratios in their cars they would perform substantially better - as proven with the 1LE and 3.91s.

The ridiculous gear ratios they run don't' even work on flat highways, they produce dyno fuel mileage numbers and that's it.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but all this proves is that someone with great experience with a certain car can pull off a fast time given enough laps...

Why exactly do I not put much weight into fastest lap times on a given track for production cars?
Well, because they mean very little if not done by the same professional driver with limited experience with the car and on the same day.

Do I have an example of why the times mean very little if these criteria are not met?
Sure, the time posted by the Camaro 1LE is a perfect example actually.

The 1LE's time is faster than a C6 Grand Sport tested a little while ago by an independent magazine and a tiny hair slower than a C6Z.
I really hope I don't read a comment about how the 1LE might be faster than a C6 GS...
So no, I don't believe the time achieved holds much significance.

Interesting and impressive? No doubt!
Really relevant as far as a car comparison is concerned? Nope...
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DiscerningZ32
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but all this proves is that someone with great experience with a certain car can pull off a fast time given enough laps...

Why exactly do I not put much weight into fastest lap times on a given track for production cars?
Well, because they mean very little if not done by the same professional driver with limited experience with the car and on the same day.

Do I have an example of why the times mean very little if these criteria are not met?
Sure, the time posted by the Camaro 1LE is a perfect example actually.

The 1LE's time is faster than a C6 Grand Sport tested a little while ago by an independent magazine and a tiny hair slower than a C6Z.
I really hope I don't read a comment about how the 1LE might be faster than a C6 GS...
So no, I don't believe the time achieved holds much significance.

Interesting and impressive? No doubt!
Really relevant as far as a car comparison is concerned? Nope...

I'm going to disagree with you and assume that you never bought anything in your life. What is being shown is the capability of the car whether it's in your hands or in the hands of a professional. You buy a car for a purpose. The purpose for this car is a track day competition in which it performed very well. Just like the 2013 GT500 that everyone loves so much is really a one trick pony, this car is a one trick pony at the track. Stop hating...
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 02:36 PM
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Well this should make for some interested stuff. I already see butthurt ford fanbois defending the honor of their Boss 302 and Boss 302 Laguna Seca. (Both of which were beat on this particular lap)
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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Didn't seem like he was working very hard either.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 FASST SS
I'm going to disagree with you and assume that you never bought anything in your life. What is being shown is the capability of the car whether it's in your hands or in the hands of a professional. You buy a car for a purpose. The purpose for this car is a track day competition in which it performed very well. Just like the 2013 GT500 that everyone loves so much is really a one trick pony, this car is a one trick pony at the track. Stop hating...
HAHAHAHAHAA...

I'm not quite sure how my comment leads you to believe that I've never bought anything in my life (I guess my last 8 cars and my house don't count), but that's irrelevant.

I'm not hating.
I think the 1LE is a remarkable car and that the time it achieved is very impressive.

I, unlike you, just don't believe that the 1LE's time is very relevant.
Anymore than I believe it's faster than a C6 GS.
Do you???
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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gmauthority.com is probably unbiased too.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by unit213
gmauthority.com is probably unbiased too.
If you are suggesting they are biased, sure, I'm sure they are. BUT how can you put bias into a recorded track time?
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
If you are suggesting they are biased, sure, I'm sure they are. BUT how can you put bias into a recorded track time?
Not sure, but a subjective view is needed for me before I form an opinion.
Maybe the car was a ringer...who knows.
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GT500 beats ZL1 on a road course (in several side by side comparisons)...doesn't matter.

1LE beats Boss on a road course (once)...matters.

You guys crack me up.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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I'm not even trying to discredit the camaro.
I wouldn't be completely surprised if it's faster than the Boss on a number of tracks.

All I'm saying is that the only way to truly compare two car's capabilities around a given road course is to give them both to one talented driver, on the same day, and see what he/she can do in them.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by -Ross-
GT500 beats ZL1 on a road course (in several side by side comparisons)...doesn't matter.

1LE beats Boss on a road course (once)...matters.

You guys crack me up.
Most of the articles i've read and video's i've seen say otherwise on the GT500 being the better road course car. They may chase the ZL1 down in the straights but lose in the turns.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by -Ross-
GT500 beats ZL1 on a road course (in several side by side comparisons)...doesn't matter.

1LE beats Boss on a road course (once)...matters.

You guys crack me up.
Road course to me is completely irrelevant.
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Old Aug 17, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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So much butt hurt
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