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Old 01-14-2014, 10:41 AM
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Default New Cadillac ATS Coupe (the basis for the next Camaro)

Weight and dimensions are all we really care about here, so check them out below.



Dimensions

Exterior

Wheelbase (in / mm):

109.3 / 2775

Length (in / mm):

183.6 / 4663

Height (in / mm):

54.8 / 1392 (roof)
55.1 / 1399 (with antenna)

Width (in / mm):

72.5 / 1841

Track (in / mm):

front: 60.3 / 1532
rear: 61.7 / 1568

Curb weight (lb / kg):

3418 / 1550


Weight distribution
(% front / rear):

51 / 49

It will be interesting to see how they style a Camaro using this car's hard points. I wouldn't hold my breath for it being any lighter than this either.
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Not as light as everyone would really want, but definitely far better than current!
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3400 out of a Cadillac is pretty good. Take out some of the Caddy fluff and add in the V8 for very little weight change. It would be awesome to see a 3400 pound 6th Gen. That is significantly lighter than what we have now.
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Originally Posted by Z Fury
3400 out of a Cadillac is pretty good. Take out some of the Caddy fluff and add in the V8 for very little weight change. It would be awesome to see a 3400 pound 6th Gen. That is significantly lighter than what we have now.
There is not much caddy fluff compared to what goes into normal cars these days. It should be a good chunk lighter than the current car though, which is always welcome. Still, the V8 will surely need a sturdier rear end and tranny too. I hope they offer the tt 4.2 in it though
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I suppose the Camaro will have less trim (and possibly lightweight materials if a Z28 or ZL1 version is in the works), so 1500ish kg out of a second generation-inspired Camaro with the new LT1 is...the stuff wet dreams are made of. Really.
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I highly, highly doubt a Camaro made out of this car will be any lighter at all. If anything bigger brakes, wider tires, larger diameter wheels alone will add weight. Not subtract it.

Plus this Cadillac likely weighs a good 200lbs more in the real world full of fluid, oil and fuel.
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I guess a 16' Camaro could weight 3650 if lucky...100-150lbs less than the current 5th gen, which is good, I guess.
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Woo hoo aanother flop for gm to venture into. I'm thrilled it's lighter but as tris held said, add in all the performance upgrades etc and we're still gonna be looking at a 300 lbs car that's still 30 lbs too ******* heavy. I mean **** an M3 is a better car as far as comforts luxury etc and its still lighter!
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The newest M4 is 3300 lb and the M3 is 3351, each with a 3L twin turbocharged I6, that's about as good as it will get anymore. They also MSRP around 60k and only go up... I'm thinking the next Camaro SS will cost a tad less.
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**** they've went on a diet then I know the older I6 and V8 were 3700-3900 with different options
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That's a good looking car. I'll have one with the ttv6 and awd with a 7 speed.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
**** they've went on a diet then I know the older I6 and V8 were 3700-3900 with different options
The M3? I guess I never cared, but I thought that was just the convertible area...
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You guys act like this car is soooo stupid heavy... yet the 4th gens tipped the scales at 3400-3500 pounds. So if the 6th gen Camaro weighed in at 3500-3600, that isn't bad at all.

Sometimes I think some of you are 100% impossible to please. If they somehow made the 6th gen lighter than the 4th gen you'd complain about something else
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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
You guys act like this car is soooo stupid heavy... yet the 4th gens tipped the scales at 3400-3500 pounds. So if the 6th gen Camaro weighed in at 3500-3600, that isn't bad at all.

Sometimes I think some of you are 100% impossible to please. If they somehow made the 6th gen lighter than the 4th gen you'd complain about something else
Exactly. This Cadillac being only ~3,400 lbs is quite impressive. Modern cars are HEAVY. Hell even the new Civics these days are just shy of 3k lbs.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
I mean **** an M3 is a better car as far as comforts luxury etc and its still lighter!
Yeah, but those cost almost twice as much so I would hope for that much more money it would be lighter.
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I'd be happier than hell if it came in at 3500lbs with the new LT1. I'd be almost as happy with an LS3. I might actually consider selling my blazer, and trading my truck in towards one. So long as they actually put a drivetrain that can handle the power, it sounds like it's off to a good start.

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Originally Posted by SparkyJJO
You guys act like this car is soooo stupid heavy... yet the 4th gens tipped the scales at 3400-3500 pounds. So if the 6th gen Camaro weighed in at 3500-3600, that isn't bad at all.

Sometimes I think some of you are 100% impossible to please. If they somehow made the 6th gen lighter than the 4th gen you'd complain about something else
Exactly. Hell the C7 is around 3300-3400lbs, right? They aren't gonna make a Camaro with two more seats, the same engine (sure they'll advertise less power), and have the weight within eating a 3-course dinner away from the C7.

3600lbs is my bet.
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3600 would be a good target weight. That way, it won't interfere w/ Corvette or ATS sales, plus they can use whatever engines they'd like. There's the problem with selling so many similar vehicles... too many choices.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
3600 would be a good target weight. That way, it won't interfere w/ Corvette or ATS sales, plus they can use whatever engines they'd like. There's the problem with selling so many similar vehicles... too many choices.
Exactly. The Corvette is really in a class of it's own, competing with cars costing much more; however the ATS is going directly after the 3 and 4 series BMWs and the Camaro will be competing against cars ranging from directly across to the Mustang to the 370Z to cars such as the MX-5 and BRZ/FR-S.

The Corvette, Camaro, and ATS don't need the added pressure of competeing against each other.



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